Bailey to be tendered?

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    Re: Bailey to be tendered?

    In response to djcbuffum's comment:
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    Wait a second. If he's on the 60-day-DL, then he's not on the 40-man roster, right? If he's not on the 40-man-roster, then he doesn't count towards the luxury tax, right? Or am I wrong on that?

    If I'm right then where's the downside? 

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    His contract WILL count towards the luxury tax should he be tendered a contract and it's signed.  Any major league contract that is gaurateed WILL go towards the luxary tax for that season....injury or no injury.  It's kind of a gray area in the whole 40 man roster thing....kind of like they're separate.....but not really....

     
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    Re: Bailey to be tendered?

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    I dont trust Billy Beane on any Trades. Most of the guys you listed stay healthy. Pitch an entire season. Sox were smart they would make Webster a reilever. They did it with Papelbon, a so-so Starter in the Minors, but made a good career as a closer. You might get some growing pains, but that is the life with kids. Develop a Closer in the Minors. 2 Pitches thats all you need. Koji showed what you can do when throw strikes.

    Thats whats sad about Bard he had it, good fastball and great slider. Then we made him a starter.

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    Ben was in a tough spot when he took over. He didnt have much room to do anything, so Im sure some moves werent his first options as he was very limited due to the payroll.

    Bard was a headcase and would have faultered regardless IMHO.

     
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    Re: Bailey to be tendered?

    Why would they ever offer a contract to him? No one else will at least near the estimated price tag of $4.3M which is what is expected in arb. Prorated over what he will play, they would be offering him the equivalent of an $8-9M contract.

    Non-tender him and try to get him for $1-2M, if that.

    What has he done with the Red Sox warranting that.

     
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    Re: Bailey to be tendered?

    Over under number of innings Bailey will toss in 2014? I say 10.

     
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    Re: Bailey to be tendered?

    I am not a Bailey fan and would not be happy paying him $4M IF he were completely healthy at this point in time.

    Signing him for $1-1.5 with incentives based on his health would look like a much better option to me, and I cannot imagine anyone else paying any more for him.

    Wilson only got $1 M from the Dodgers for the last one third of last season as they did not really know how healthy his arm was after his surgery.  I cannot understand paying Bailey over $4M now and not knowing how healthy he will be by the middle of next summer.

    To the poster who mentioned signing him and then trading him, I cannot imagine that he is worth a bucket of BP balls at this time to another team if he is attached to a $4M contract.

     
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    Re: Bailey to be tendered?

    What would be the benefit of offering Bailey anything? Non-tender him and see what he can't get. He won't get much. 

    Besides, was he any good? Lots of injuries since PED testing  began.

     
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    Re: Bailey to be tendered?

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    What would be the benefit of offering Bailey anything? Non-tender him and see what he can't get. He won't get much. 

    Besides, was he any good? Lots of injuries since PED testing  began.



    Bailey's entire professional baseball career has been after PED testing began. Drafted in 2006, and rookie year in ML in 2009. Hinting that he's a former PED user who's getting hurt now that testing began is ridiculous.

     
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    Re: Bailey to be tendered?

    Then again, just because he isn't non-tendered does not mean they go directly to arbitration.   It is possible something gets worked out prior...

     
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    Re: Bailey to be tendered?

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    Bard wasn't a "headcase" when he first came up. This is a meaningless slur. Bard developed confidence problems after being one of the best pen arms in MLB. 

    Bard was the draft pick for the Yankees signing Damon. Despite only getting a short term high quality MLB time from Bard, the Yankees did the Red Sox a favor by saving Damon from the long term books.

    Bailey's issues have been his physical constituion, which becomes manifest over several years of MLB career service. Bottom line, this was not the way to acquire a year's service contract for Bailey.  

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    Bard was a head case in college. The one reason I didn't like the pick was his head case issues. And he continued to be a head case in the low minors. You are mistaken.

     
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    Re: Bailey to be tendered?

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    What would be the benefit of offering Bailey anything? Non-tender him and see what he can't get. He won't get much. 

    Besides, was he any good? Lots of injuries since PED testing  began.

     

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    Bailey's entire professional baseball career has been after PED testing began. Drafted in 2006, and rookie year in ML in 2009. Hinting that he's a former PED user who's getting hurt now that testing began is ridiculous.

     

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    ADG wanted to get a head start insulting all the RS players this year.

     
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    Re: Bailey to be tendered?

    In response to johnjamesgoldman's comment:
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    Bard wasn't a "headcase" when he first came up. This is a meaningless slur. Bard developed confidence problems after being one of the best pen arms in MLB. 

    Bard was the draft pick for the Yankees signing Damon. Despite only getting a short term high quality MLB time from Bard, the Yankees did the Red Sox a favor by saving Damon from the long term books.

    Bailey's issues have been his physical constituion, which becomes manifest over several years of MLB career service. Bottom line, this was not the way to acquire a year's service contract for Bailey.  

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    And softy has been banned already. Only took 14 posts...

     
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    Re: Bailey to be tendered?

    Bailey officially non-tendered.  Good move by Cherington.

    Perhaps look to re-sign Bailey after he recovers and shows that he is healthy again, but still not for very much money or length of contract.  Maybe $750,000 to a million for next year if he is ready to pitch by July.

    Or let him go and let him find another team.

     
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    Re: Bailey to be tendered?

    I guess he was non-tendered according to Salk from WEEI

     
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    Re: Bailey to be tendered?

    Bailey and Kalish non-tendered according to MLBTR.

     
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    Re: Bailey to be tendered?

    Neither non-tender surprised me.  Although I do wonder how long the Sox plan on keeping 4 backup catchers on the 40-man roster...

     

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