Re: Boras and Drew
posted at 1/14/2014 12:09 AM EST
In response to moonslav59's comment:
In response to jasko2248's comment:
In response to S5's comment:
I don't get the rationale of saying that the trade was worth it because we won the WS. That rationale says that since we don't know what would have happened if we hadn't made the trade and we won the WS it MUST have been a good trade.
The fact is that the FO blundered into it being a "good trade" because of Iggys error, but for the longer term this trade was a disaster.
S5, please tell me Jose Iglesias is your son, then I "might" be able to understand your passion for the guy. The trade will be a "disaster" long term?! I appreciate a guy who can play defense as much as the next fan, but there isn't a GM in baseball who would trade the Red Sox current SS (Xander Boegarts) for 9 Jose Iglesiases. This Sox Front Office values their prospects like gold, so there might just be some red flags with Iglesias. If he goes on to have a similar career as Omar Vizquel or Ozzie Smith (obviously unlikely), then I still wouldn't call the trade a "disaster." The trade was the right move at the time, the Sox won it all, and I don't know of anyone in baseball who has criticized the Sox for making that deal.
We have to wait for the "longterm" to judge it longterm. It's premature to say the trade was a longterm disaster.
I get the argument about not knowing or thinking Peavy helped us win the ring.
I undertsand why we made the deal with Buch questionable, and Dempster and Doubront nearing their limits, but I still think we'd have been better off with Iggy. It will always be hard to compare what ifs, even 4-6 years down the road. We'll never know what might have happened had we kept Iggy. Would we have still traded for another starter and lost a player that turns out better than Iggy? Would we be looking to trade Middy this winter, so we could go with Iggy at SS and Bogey at 3B? What would we get for Middy?
It's nearly impossible to know what that deal would have done or not done.
Time will tell, but a couple of things to consider. John Farrell is a great guy, but he's also a "no nonsense" type, which is why it's no secret he wants Drew back. Give him a guy at SS who is going to make all the plays he should (Drew) over a guy who may or may not try to do much and butcher the routine play every now & again (Iglesias).
There are people in baseball who feel Iglesias has concentration lapses, which isn't all that unusual with his exceptional talent. Peavy was rotation insurance, as you mentioned, but it was also a signal to the other 24 guys that said, "We think you can win." Some people think that doesn't mean much, but some others might disagree...