Can We Please Trade for Papelbon!?

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    Can We Please Trade for Papelbon!?

    Paps is a player the Sox never should have let walk. The Phillies apparently are putting him on the block.

    He had another outstanding year last year. This year, despite 4 BSs, he's been solid. We know he can handle the pressure in Boston. He's the best closer we've ever had and he's still in his prime.

    I've hear rumors that Boston and Detroit are interested in him. What are the chances we land him?

     
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    Hopefully, none.  I'm fine with Uehara and don't want to shell out buckets of money and prospects  for a guy who was so-so in the AL in 2011.  He would not have fixed last years team and ain't crucial to this years.  

     
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    I was interested in this at one point but Paps loss of velocity and K's this year is a major red flag.  He's also blown 4 saves in the last couple of weeks.

     
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    I'd rather go w/ internal options and not give up the prospects it would take to obtain him. 

     
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    He actually began losing some velocity his last year with us. He dropped off even more in 2012. Now, he has dropped again...

    http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfxo.aspx?playerid=5975&position=P&pitch=FA

     

    Can we please just say no?

     

    Sox4ever

     
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    From what I'm reading the Sox are going to go all out for that kid Gonzalez, they'll want to save that money. Cherrington has already Scouted him.
    I still think Ruby in Pawtucket will soon be this teams future closer.
    Detroit almost has to make this trade at this point.

     
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    In response to Sox Noles' comment:

    Paps is a player the Sox never should have let walk. The Phillies apparently are putting him on the block.

    He had another outstanding year last year. This year, despite 4 BSs, he's been solid. We know he can handle the pressure in Boston. He's the best closer we've ever had and he's still in his prime.

    I've hear rumors that Boston and Detroit are interested in him. What are the chances we land him?



    I'd be pissed if the Sox traded for him.  Seriously pissed.  You do not give up prospects for that.

     
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    Uehara is doing the job, 3 in a row...ride the wave.

     
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    In response to crazyworldoftroybrown's comment:

    From what I'm reading the Sox are going to go all out for that kid Gonzalez, they'll want to save that money. Cherrington has already Scouted him.
    I still think Ruby in Pawtucket will soon be this teams future closer.
    Detroit almost has to make this trade at this point.



    I think the last point is key.  You really want to trade for a guy when interest is at its weakest, Beltre for example.  Last year, Detroit gave up a really big prospet for Sanchez.  I assume that they will do so again for Paps.  It's like not wanting to compete with the NYY for a FA.  You don't want to have to outbid the Tigers, or else it will surely be an overpay.

     
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    I am fine with Uehara. 

    Besides, Papelbon still did not tell us what happened with the 2007 World Series ball.  "My dog ate it." is hard to believe.   LOL

     

     
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    Sure.  We can trade for him.  Who do you want to give up that the Phils will take?

    Remember, we're dealing from a point of weakness now.  We (allegedly) need a closer and the Phils know it. OTOH the Phils are (again allegedly) looking to get rid of him but get the best deal they can for him, probably in prospects.  If they can rob someone and get rid of Pap they'll do it but otherwise they'll stand pat until some contender who needs a closer is willing to overpay.  The Phils are in no hurry.  They're going noplace this year anyway. 

    I like Pap and appreciate what he did for the Sox, but given his salary and declining numbers I wouldn't give up much for him.  And certainly not what it would take to get him.

    Having the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do.

     
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    As far as driving up the price for Detroit, yeah the Sox are in it. I don't see Bos making too many moves, unless a significant injury takes place. They'll solve and patchwork from within as much as they can. And heck, thats what 90% of us here want anyway. 

    The only move I would make right now, is to get Webster a pair of those glasses/goggles Tor.'s Cecil has. It would make him look scarier. 

    "Don't you worry about blank, let me worry about blank"

     
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    We should have made more of an effort to keep Papelbon.  Too late now. Let it go. We should absolutely hold on to our top prospects.  Don't trade them for Papelbon or Lee. 

    Stabbed by Foulke.

     
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    I was for doing this a month ago, now not so much. His numbers are declining at a rapid pace and he is becoming very hittable. 3 years left on that deal? No thanks. Let Detroit give up the future for him.

     
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    I was for doing this a month ago, now not so much. His numbers are declining at a rapid pace and he is becoming very hittable. 3 years left on that deal? No thanks. Let Detroit give up the future for him.



    The more the batters faced him in the AL, the more hittable he became. After a few years in the NL, the same thing is, and will continue to happen. His best years are behind him and the Sox got them.

     
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    I was for doing this a month ago, now not so much. His numbers are declining at a rapid pace and he is becoming very hittable. 3 years left on that deal? No thanks. Let Detroit give up the future for him.

     



    The more the batters faced him in the AL, the more hittable he became. After a few years in the NL, the same thing is, and will continue to happen. His best years are behind him and the Sox got them.

     

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    The more I think about it, the more I agree that they made the right move letting him go. If he could be offered a 3yr deal at the time, I believe the Sox would have made that offer. 5 years was too much for a 31 yr old power arm closer.

     
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    Stop and think, then after you've done that, ask yourself why, if Papelbon is worth the money ...why would the Phillies be in such a rush to dump him?

    Because he's not worth the money.

    If he's not worth the money....why do you want him?

    And the Red Sox didn't resign him because he's not worth the money.

    Eat half his salary and maybe the Phillies will get some serious offers.

    "There are lots of people who mistake their imagination for their memory.-Josh Billings

     
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    I was interested in this at one point but Paps loss of velocity and K's this year is a major red flag.  He's also blown 4 saves in the last couple of weeks.



    But those weren't Sox saves, so that grass is always greener. ..

     
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    Are we rebuilding or  trying to win it all?  

     
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    Would like to see Pap back.  I've said that since he left.  Also big Koji fan and realize he is doing great in closer position at present, but he was also great in middle/late relief and now we have a glaring hole there.  Disagree that Pap is past his prime.

     
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    Would like to see Pap back.  I've said that since he left.  Also big Koji fan and realize he is doing great in closer position at present, but he was also great in middle/late relief and now we have a glaring hole there.  Disagree that Pap is past his prime.



    Disagree why? 

     

    Velocity being down two years running and 4 blown saves a fluke?..

     
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    To be fair , the four blown saves were at least partially caused by some terrible defense behind him.  He can still close games with the best of them.  I just would not give up any of our top prospects for him.

    Stabbed by Foulke.

     
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    In response to DaffyDan's comment:

    Are we rebuilding or  trying to win it all?  




    This is a really good question, and one the FO is going to have to ask themselves very soon. 

    I think this team is a surprise to everone - including the FO.  Everything points to this being a building year with the short term contracts they signed, but suddently this team is looking GOOD.  So the question is, are we rebuilding this year, or suddenly trying to win it all?

    IMO given where the team is at the half-way point the FO will make a half-hearted attempt to win it all.  That means they have earmarked a certain number of young players whom they feel are "untouchable", and those players will remain untouchable. 

    If the FO can fill the needs they see without trading away (m)any of those players they'll do it, but they won't be robbed by some GM who thinks the Sox are looking for a short-term fix for this year.  They'll do what they can to improve the team and play with what they've got.  If they win it, it's a bonus.  If they don't they're tooling up for a very bright future. 

     
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    Re: Can We Please Trade for Papelbon!?

    Why?

     
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    The Paps train left the station three years ago. Sorry dude. Keep posting though. Congrats on post 1. 

         
     

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