Can Yankees Avenge 2004 ALCS 'Worst Loss In Baseball History' in 2012?

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    Can Yankees Avenge 2004 ALCS 'Worst Loss In Baseball History' in 2012?

    Who thinks the Yankees can repeat the Red Sox 0-3 rebound to win series 4-3 as they did in 2004 ALCS and avenge their 'worst choke in baseball history'?

    The Tigers have got some decent pitchers still to finish things and I don't believe the Yankees can pull this off...but I wouldn't rule it out either!

     
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    Re: Can Yankees Avenge 2004 ALCS 'Worst Loss In Baseball History' in 2012?

    Not that I would ever rule out a Yankee comeback, but consider that Jeter is out, A-Rod is being benched, Rivera is out, Sabbathia can't pitch every game and Girardi does not know how to manage (..letting Ibanez bat against a lefty with the tying run on base....in the 9th inning of a do or die game...with A-Rod and Swisher riding the pine!!!!...this Girardi has lost his mind!). Joe Torre would have made the right moves.

    Prediction: Yankees rally to win behind Sabbathia, they are toast in game 5.

     
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    Re: Can Yankees Avenge 2004 ALCS 'Worst Loss In Baseball History' in 2012?

    No they cannot repeat what the Sox did. They are not as talented as the 2004 Sox team was.

    FTR - biggest choke in Baseball history - Sept. 2011 - I won't mention the team ;-D

     
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    No they cannot repeat what the Sox did. They are not as talented as the 2004 Sox team was.

    FTR - biggest choke in Baseball history - Sept. 2011 - I won't mention the team ;-D

    [/QUOTE]I think the headline that you responded to ("worst loss in baseball history")  is without competition. Never done before and the high stakes of going to the world series on the line. Sorry but that stands alone as #1 forever.


     
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    Would be avenging 2004 anyway - we are not playing Boston.

     
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    good point jess.  it would feel really good though.  trust me.

     
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    No they cannot repeat what the Sox did. They are not as talented as the 2004 Sox team was.

    FTR - biggest choke in Baseball history - Sept. 2011 - I won't mention the team ;-D

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    That's an easy one.............the Atlanta Braves.........*cough*  *cough*  LOL

     

     
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    No they cannot repeat what the Sox did. They are not as talented as the 2004 Sox team was.

    FTR - biggest choke in Baseball history - Sept. 2011 - I won't mention the team ;-D

    [/QUOTE]I think the headline that you responded to ("worst loss in baseball history")  is without competition. Never done before and the high stakes of going to the world series on the line. Sorry but that stands alone as #1 forever.


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    Perhaps, but not even the NYY feel that way; not that I agree with it, but Torre claims Gm 7 of the 2001 WS was his worst moment.

     
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    No they cannot repeat what the Sox did. They are not as talented as the 2004 Sox team was.

    FTR - biggest choke in Baseball history - Sept. 2011 - I won't mention the team ;-D

    [/QUOTE]I think the headline that you responded to ("worst loss in baseball history")  is without competition. Never done before and the high stakes of going to the world series on the line. Sorry but that stands alone as #1 forever.


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    Perhaps, but not even the NYY feel that way; Torre claims Gm 7 of the 2001 WS was his worst moment

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         "not even the NYY feel that way"

            Sure they do. Must be tougher than I thought for them to admit.

            The whole baseball world looks upon the 2004 ALCS as the pinnacle of comebacks/choke's.

            If Wide Word of Sports was still on the air the show would have replaced "the agony of defeat"  ski racer  with highlites from that ALCS.

           

     
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    Speaking of choke, the Texas Rangers were five games up on Oakland with nine to play and still lost the division.   LOL

     

     
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    No they cannot repeat what the Sox did. They are not as talented as the 2004 Sox team was.

    FTR - biggest choke in Baseball history - Sept. 2011 - I won't mention the team ;-D

    [/QUOTE]I think the headline that you responded to ("worst loss in baseball history")  is without competition. Never done before and the high stakes of going to the world series on the line. Sorry but that stands alone as #1 forever.


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    Perhaps, but not even the NYY feel that way; Torre claims Gm 7 of the 2001 WS was his worst moment

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         "not even the NYY feel that way"

            Sure they do. Must be tougher than I thought for them to admit.

            The whole baseball world looks upon the 2004 ALCS as the pinnacle of comebacks/choke's.

            If Wide Word of Sports was still on the air the show would have replaced "the agony of defeat"  ski racer  with highlites from that ALCS.

           

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    I googled the choke lists, and while it's up there, none had this as #1, FWIW. Here's an example:

     

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/670865-power-ranking-the-top-50-worst-chokes-in-sports-history/page/45

     

     
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    OK people the intent of this post was to ask who thinks the Yankees can repeat what the Sox achieved in 2004, that being coming back from a 0-3 deficit.

    It was assumed that everyone agreed that the 2004 ALCS was the worst choke in "baseball" history considering the impact of the loss and who the Yankees lost to...i.e. their hated rivals from Boston.

    nhsteven raises a good point about the Phillies in the Bleacher Report, but that choke, even though ranked higher by Bleacher does not match the 2004 collapse.

    jessy implies that the Red Sox 2011 September equates to 2004, but that isn't even close...those events just introduced the dysfunction of things in the Boston clubhouse but does not hold a candle to losing 4 straight in the spotlight of the ALCS.


    Lastly, if we are discussing chokes, I sadly relate to a game early this season against the Yanks at Fenway, where the Sox held a 9-0 lead into the 7th innning, I was present to see the Yanks bomb 7 runs in the 7th and 8th innings and win the game 15-9...that was bad but not the same as the impact the Tigers blowing their 3-0 lead would have to the Detroit fanbase.

     

     
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    With a rainout last nite, now Sabathia may not be able to pitch game 7

     
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    With a rainout last nite, now Sabathia may not be able to pitch game 7

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       Not many fans see that as a problem.

       I do because even though a game 7 is unlikely it could go that far.

     
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    With a rainout last nite, now Sabathia may not be able to pitch game 7

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    The way the Yankees have been playing, there will not be a game 5.  

    The only thing that can extend the Yankee's season is rain.  

     
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    Speaking of choke, the Texas Rangers were five games up on Oakland with nine to play and still lost the division.   LOL

     

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    True

     
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    With a rainout last nite, now Sabathia may not be able to pitch game 7

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    The way the Yankees have been playing, there will not be a game 5.  

    The only thing that can extend the Yankee's season is rain.  

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    I know that.  But first i didnt want the game to be cancelled cuz Sabathia is on a short rest. Then people like these yankees fans were happy to see it was cancelled cuz that will give Sabathia another day rest.  But now game #5, #6 and #7 will not be moved which it is a bad news for Sabathia if he ever want to pitch again espeically for game #7.

    Of course, we all know that there is no game #7!!  But never know!!  Any time a rainout occurred, there is alway something that could change moment from one side to another!

     

     
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    With a rainout last nite, now Sabathia may not be able to pitch game 7

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    and Coke, who was not available last night, will be today

     
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    With a rainout last nite, now Sabathia may not be able to pitch game 7

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    The way the Yankees have been playing, there will not be a game 5.  

    The only thing that can extend the Yankee's season is rain.  

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    I know that.  But first i didnt want the game to be cancelled cuz Sabathia is on a short rest. Then people like these yankees fans were happy to see it was cancelled cuz that will give Sabathia another day rest.  But now game #5, #6 and #7 will not be moved which it is a bad news for Sabathia if he ever want to pitch again espeically for game #7.

    Of course, we all know that there is no game #7!!  But never know!!  Any time a rainout occurred, there is alway something that could change moment from one side to another!

     

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    This is like worrying about what to eat for breakfast in the year 2525

     

     
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    With a rainout last nite, now Sabathia may not be able to pitch game 7

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    The way the Yankees have been playing, there will not be a game 5.  

    The only thing that can extend the Yankee's season is rain.  

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    I know that.  But first i didnt want the game to be cancelled cuz Sabathia is on a short rest. Then people like these yankees fans were happy to see it was cancelled cuz that will give Sabathia another day rest.  But now game #5, #6 and #7 will not be moved which it is a bad news for Sabathia if he ever want to pitch again espeically for game #7.

    Of course, we all know that there is no game #7!!  But never know!!  Any time a rainout occurred, there is alway something that could change moment from one side to another!

     

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    This is like worrying about what to eat for breakfast in the year 2525

     

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    In the Year 2525

     
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    With a rainout last nite, now Sabathia may not be able to pitch game 7

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    and Coke, who was not available last night, will be today

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             That is a very Good Point.

     
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    With a rainout last nite, now Sabathia may not be able to pitch game 7

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    The way the Yankees have been playing, there will not be a game 5.  

    The only thing that can extend the Yankee's season is rain.  

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    I know that.  But first i didnt want the game to be cancelled cuz Sabathia is on a short rest. Then people like these yankees fans were happy to see it was cancelled cuz that will give Sabathia another day rest.  But now game #5, #6 and #7 will not be moved which it is a bad news for Sabathia if he ever want to pitch again espeically for game #7.

    Of course, we all know that there is no game #7!!  But never know!!  Any time a rainout occurred, there is alway something that could change moment from one side to another!

     

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    This is like worrying about what to eat for breakfast in the year 2525

     

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    In the Year 2525

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    Stating that yr was not a coincidence

     
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    Sweep.

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           I hope someone tells CC.

     
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    Who thinks the Yankees can repeat the Red Sox 0-3 rebound to win series 4-3 as they did in 2004 ALCS and avenge their 'worst choke in baseball history'?

    The Tigers have got some decent pitchers still to finish things and I don't believe the Yankees can pull this off...but I wouldn't rule it out either!

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    Anything is possible.  Although, what the Red Sox accomplished has never been done before in MLB.  If the Yankees can win the next 2 games, I give them  a chance of winning this series. 

     
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    Who thinks the Yankees can repeat the Red Sox 0-3 rebound to win series 4-3 as they did in 2004 ALCS and avenge their 'worst choke in baseball history'?

    The Tigers have got some decent pitchers still to finish things and I don't believe the Yankees can pull this off...but I wouldn't rule it out either!

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    Anything is possible.  Although, what the Red Sox accomplished has never been done before in MLB.  If the Yankees can win the next 2 games, I give them  a chance of winning this series. 

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       I know what your saying Susan. imo they have a slim chance right now. It's a long shot but not out of the question. The difference between the 2004 Sox and this Yankee team is if it goes to a game 7 they will have to beat Verlander while the Sox in 2004 faced Kevin Brown. Oh yea, the Sox had David and Manny in the middle of their lineup and the Tigers have a pretty good 3/4 punch themselves.

     

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