Re: CHAD FINN IS 100 PERCENT CORRECT
posted at 9/30/2011 4:27 PM EDT
In Response to Re: CHAD FINN IS 100 PERCENT CORRECT
[QUOTE]five..the problem with your analysis is that ignores the slow start in april (again) and the lack of conditioning/toughness that is directly attributed to the manager....what is Jon Henry supposed to think? I paid Lackey 80 million so that he can show up our players/manager as his belly, wallet, and head swells? How is that Theo's fault? If Francona put the smack down on that nonsense and trained his veterans properly, we clinch a playoff spot and the division 10 days ago. The manager cost us games - he needs to go. Francona made a huge blunder by not starting Aceves...Baseball 101 - nothing is more valuable than a starting pitcher...you think an ex catcher would know that. He let his sentamental feelings for Wake hurt the team and we played from behind for the better part of the last 6 weeks. These are all things that fall under the realm of managing...and he failed, epically. He deserved the firing.
Posted by georom4[/QUOTE]I never have bought that April theory FWIW. Go back and look at the game logs. Lot's LOB, and the early warnings of poor starting pitching and Bard's occasional command issues were at the heart of that start.
The LOB come with this model. The NYY go through stretches of it too. But when you put a ton of guys on base, while you leave you'll have more LOB and stretches were it is stunning, but over 162 you score far more when you build a high OBP club.
As for Lackey, that is all on Epstein and Henry who had to approve that contract level commitment. Lackey was the same guy in Anaheim, from the belly, to accountability to the faces. Epstein admitted as much yesterday.
The Aceves theory another I don't buy. This team had 1 to 2 starters worth a darn in September. they had 3 relievers they could count on. Bard and Papelbon and Aceves. Everything in Aceves history tells us he would have been a 5-6 IP max starter. Who was relieving Aceves, let alone Wake, Miller, Weiland and/or Bedard?
Now I am not saying that Francona made no errors in 2011 but the team he was given was flawed. Too left handed. Crawford was fool's gold. The depth behind the original starting 5 was awful and the FO waited too long to do anything about it because the team went through a stretch where they cloaked and they lost the bet that Buch would be back.
The FO cost us more games. The team was flawed. For a FO that bragged it went through Crawford's garbage with PI before they signed him, they blew it.
Again, I am not saying that it may not be time for Francona to move on. It was apparent by mid-September that he had lost his good humor with the this caustic nature of the market aside from everything else.
But if you think for a minute that bringing back the same 25 guys would have resulted in a WS championship, I disagree. In fact I will take it as far looking back on 2011 to say that a lot of other managers would not have gotten this team off of the mat after the 2-12 start or kept the issues now leaking out of the clubhouse in that clubhouse until the season was over.