Cherrington's thought on the SP's MAY be.....

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    Cherrington's thought on the SP's MAY be.....

    ...this. He may be banking on the idea that Dubrount will continue to develop, and that Lester/Buchholz will return to form assuming they are healthy, and we've not heard that they aren't. Neither of those are far fetched ideas, especially when we consider the stability Farrell would bring in compared to the circus of 2012. If that happens, you already have a solid foundation there. Next, you hope that a healthy Lackey could possibly return to a 2009 type form. This also, while certainly not guaranteed, is not beyond possibility--it's been done before many times. If you add to that the Tazawa's and Morales' of the system for backup, and make a trade using Ellsbury & co. to get a 1 or 1a SP to top your rotation, the pitching is in respectable shape. The down side is that (as we've seen all to often recently) the worst could happen. That is, Dubrount does not progress, and possibly gets hurt or regresses, Lester and Buchholz never return to form, and Lackey, well, is Lackey again. If that happens, the Sox will be left with a 1 or 1a horse, and 4 nags. Welcome back to last place. But on balance, it's not a bad risk IF that's the path Cherrington chooses. Also, IF Lackey would return to form enough to hold his own even as a #3 caliber (certainly a possibility), you'd have him for the league minimun in 2014, freeing up a lot of cash to augment the lineup or staff. It's a risk, but on the whole not a terrible one. We'll see what the Sox have on the burner...... 

     
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    Re: Cherrington's thought on the SP's MAY be.....

    You are also forgetting about De La Rosa who could be in the mix.

     
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    In response to Yaso#7's comment:
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    You are also forgetting about De La Rosa who could be in the mix.

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    Listening to the radio and they said something about the Sox saying they would not have De La Rosa in the majors at all this year for some reason.

     
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    ....... To give Bard another shot at starting. 

    If he takes the same approach that he did last year, stockpiling also-rans (his interest in Dempster and Pavano seem to indicate such) all the offense in the world won't help. The Texas Rangers knew that all too well. 

     
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    Re: Cherrington's thought on the SP's MAY be.....

    ...this. He may be banking on the idea that Dubrount will continue to develop,

    He's got a lot of further developing to go to improve on his God-awful WHIP.

    ...and that Lester/Buchholz will return to form assuming they are healthy, and we've not heard that they aren't.

    They were healthy last year for the most part. What are the odds they both stay healthy and have big years? Both? maybe 60-40? 50-50?

    Neither of those are far fetched ideas, especially when we consider the stability Farrell would bring in compared to the circus of 2012.

    Neither are far fetched, but the chances all 3 have better years is pretty darn close to "far-fetched".

    If that happens, you already have a solid foundation there. Next, you hope that a healthy Lackey could possibly return to a 2009 type form.

    All 4? Now, we are beyond far-fetched.

    This also, while certainly not guaranteed, is not beyond possibility--it's been done before many times. If you add to that the Tazawa's and Morales' of the system for backup, and make a trade using Ellsbury & co. to get a 1 or 1a SP to top your rotation, the pitching is in respectable shape.

    Elssbury can only be traded to a contender, and no contender is giving a quality SP to get a questionable CF'er for 1 year. We could involve a 3rd team and add some other players and/or prospects to get a better SP, but until we do, this rotation is a joke or a pipedream.

    The down side is that (as we've seen all to often recently) the worst could happen. That is, Dubrount does not progress, and possibly gets hurt or regresses, Lester and Buchholz never return to form, and Lackey, well, is Lackey again. If that happens, the Sox will be left with a 1 or 1a horse, and 4 nags. Welcome back to last place. But on balance, it's not a bad risk IF that's the path Cherrington chooses. Also, IF Lackey would return to form enough to hold his own even as a #3 caliber (certainly a possibility), you'd have him for the league minimun in 2014, freeing up a lot of cash to augment the lineup or staff. It's a risk, but on the whole not a terrible one. We'll see what the Sox have on the burner......

    I am almsot certain we will sign someone, but I hope it is not the J Gomes or S Victorino of the pitching choices.

     
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    Re: Cherrington's thought on the SP's MAY be.....

    Meh, to each his own moon. I think Buchholz was on the DL once or twice last year wasn't he? And as I said, the "circus" was a big a problem as anything else. The rumors of turmoil in the clubhouse turned out by and large to be true. Having Lester and Buchholz get back to their normal selves is not far fetched, nor is the idea of Dubrount progressing. Morales also showed signs of having excellent mental toughness. These guys are rookies, give them a chance to develop. As far as Lackey goes, this guy was one of the toughest, bull dog types in all of baseball. Having him return to be a #3 quality guy is not asking too much, but it's not a sure thing by any means either. I wouldn't call Ellsbury a "questionable" CF'er. The injuries he's had have not been his fault, in both cases he was run into by another player and injured. The only cause for concern is that he didn't return to form when he came back last season, but that could be residue of the nature of his injury. Meanwhile, who says he can only be traded to a contender? His contract status could cut in either direction there. While I agree it's more likely he'd go to a contender, it's not exclusive, especially if you've got a middle of the road team that's looking to build like the Nationals did a couple years ago when they overpaid for Werth. It didn't work the first year, but look where they ended up last year. If that's the case, it may be during ST when he gets moved, that is, after teams have a chance to see how he looks, and if it's worth the risk to trade and then sign him to a long term deal--if Boras would permit--but that's another story. 

     

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