Re: Ciraico or Iggy?
posted at 4/15/2012 8:32 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Ciraico or Iggy?
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Ciraico or Iggy? : Yup, kind of what I said to all those who used Ellburys minor league stats and lack of power to judge his potential in the majors. So we bring up Spears and company? Repko deserves it based on his quick start at AAA but poor major league numbers. Or maybe Spears? If you can't admit some guys play better at a higher level and others just in the minors, theres really no use debating.
Posted by craze4sox[/QUOTE]
Except that, with the exception of power, Ellsbury had very good stats in the minors. And at the major league level, he has only accomplished power numbers one time. If he never does it again, he won't be the first player. (Joe Mauer, for example. Want about a dozen others?)
Tell you what - why not name a few players who have excelled at the MLB level without excelling in the minor league level. Ellsbury certainly excelled in the minors, so he is not a good example for your list. Just because he did not hit for power - which does often come late for many hitters - does not mean he did not excel.
So who are all these Ciricao-type hiters with sub-.300 OBP's in the minors who then go on to become solid MLB hitters? Cirico had a good srping training. Don't be fooled into thinking those 60 at-bats are more representative that the 3,000 that came before. We all saw Jeff Bailey have terrific March's as well. Was it because he was suddenly blossoming into a great hitter, or because 1) it was only 30 at-bats and 2) guys like Bailey and Ciriaco usually actually try in ST because they want to land MLB jobs, whereas guys like Pedroia or Ellsbury just want to get loose and avoid injury.
And if you cannot accept that, I really, really see no point in debating. But I do want to see all these awful minor league / good major league hitters to support your theory. When can I expect that?