Re: Dissention? or Disintegration
posted at 10/2/2011 12:03 PM EDT
In Response to Dissention? or Disintegration
[QUOTE]While the board is trying to connect imaginary dots from Tito's farewell speech, I thought I'd try to inject some stability into the rampant, low-class witch-hunt that is plaguing this board. Does anybody really think for one moment that dissention caused the collapse? Do you have any idea how much dissention occurs in a given clubhouse, with 25 guys working and living together for a good part of 6 months? Ask Reggie Jackson, who has many rings despite playing under a volatile manager and a loudmouth, hands-on owner. Talent won those rings, just as injuries that decimated a pitching staff can lose a WC position. Sooooooooooooooo, Tito makes allusions about players not backing themselves up...losing control of the same players who's back he's had for 8 years. Now, in one month, suddenly there's all this dissention . Funny that we had the same players - only healthier - playing better baseball than any team in the game during the summer. Same team that was headed for a divisional title and 100 wins. On top of Buch and Dice going down, the team loses Beckett and Bedard, who was just starting to pitch well. Then the swoon begin. Then all of a sudden there is dissention. What the hell do you think will be born out of a clubhouse panic stricken and mobbed daily by by the press monster and fan expectation? Joy and love? Now here's a thought. Maybe, just maybe, the very thing that worked in Tito's favor since 2004 was working against him. Gee, does this happen to other managers? Look how many successes the great managers of the game have had...and ask yourself why they ended up managing so many teams. Maybe, just maybe, Tito's loyalty to his coaches, for example, blinded him to the realities. Maybe the FO gave into him up to now because his approach had paid off. Now Tito had to face the fact his blind loyalty was just that. He got away with it when he had trusteed personnel like life-long friend Mills and close friend Farrell. Mills leaves and the team seems unprepared out of ST. Lacking fundamentals. No way Tito blames DeMarco Hale. Bogar continues to show aggressive ineptness but Tito admirably has his back. Farrell leaves and pitchers start losing velocity. Experience erratic form. Injuries abound. No way Tito throws Young under the bus. And since the team is sitting pretty in late August, the status quo is allowed to continue. Tito made one statement that I think holds more truth than any whacked-out mind trip could post: He said " Maybe after 8 years in one place, (maybe) it's time for a new voice". After abject failure of this proportion, a man has to come to terms with himself. His approach worked for many years. But there were certain things he wasn't willing to change, like hardcore decisions that would have compromised the very core of what endeared him to players and fans alike. That's why it's hard for many of us to see him leave. He's a quality person. And the nature of the job eats into that. But perhaps it's better to absorb a blow to the gut...than a steady diet of deterioration.
Posted by harness[/QUOTE]
We may never know the real reasons or situations with certain players that led to our teams collapse, or Terry leaving. My opinion? Part Tito for being soft with players until they began to take advantage. Also Theo for making bad moves and players not being in great condition to play the game.The fact is we still have a great team but horrible pitching so whoever comes in to manage needs to find a strong 4th, 5th & 6th starter first and foremost.Josh
, in my opinion should be packaged for another top starter if we choose to let Tek go. Hes half the pitcher without Tek which it strange. Lester
needs to get into better shape and Clay healthy. Lackey,
needs to be sent as far away fro Boston as possible and the Sox need to sign or trade for a solid #4. Aceves
could easily be our 5th starter if Theo could actually find a real bull pen to support to help.
Jenks, Wheeler, Albers and a mix a very mediocre guys hurt us all year. RF
is another issue along with working Lavarnway into the mix at catching.
A lot of work but a great foundation to begin will.