Do the Math

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    [QUOTE]Slomag, take a look a Slugging over the last 3 years, when the Red Sox have zero playoff wins. Don't post On base percentage to try and skew how much more talented and capable the Yankee offensive R-L construction is.
    Posted by hankwilliamsjr[/QUOTE]

    It's just not there ...

    2011 Red Sox SLG RHP vs LHP = .472
    2010 Red Sox SLG RHP vs LHP = .503
    2009 Red Sox SLG RHP vs LHP = .475

    2011 Yankees SLG RHP vs LHP = .456
    2010 Yankees SLG RHP vs LHP = .441
    2009 Yankees SLG RHP vs LHP = .460

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Do the Math : Forget about my response. Do you sanction Snakeoil calling Chilliwings a troll on page 1? Yes or No - don't squirm out of it or deflect.
    Posted by 6k42lt913c[/QUOTE]

    I was talking to Hank..not chiliwings. You know since Hank wrote the thread?  Just because my post was below Chiliwings didn't mean I was talking to him.

    What is wrong with you?  You really are not well at all.

     
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    It's just not there ...

    2011 Red Sox SLG RHP vs LHP = .472
    2010 Red Sox SLG RHP vs LHP = .503
    2009 Red Sox SLG RHP vs LHP = .475

    2011 Yankees SLG RHP vs LHP = .456   
    2010 Yankees SLG RHP vs LHP = .441
    2009 Yankees SLG RHP vs LHP = .460

    A. Fenway Park & Yankee Stadium, Dim bulb!
    B. The issue is the middle of the lineup, not aggregate team slugging


     
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    Sorry Hanky. Your reputation is well known. You tried changing names to hide from it. Remember, you are the guy that wanted Cameron over Ellsbury and the guy who thinks Ellsbury has as much power as Coco Crisp. You are a walking tool bag with the brain of the dumbest kid on the short bus. You entertain us all with your posts that are soon proven wrong

    Sorry Pissky, you have the writing skills of someone who attended the party school which attracted many morons like yourself. I'm the guy who said, after Epstein "wanted Cameron of Ellsbury", to use Platoon Cameron v. LP for Drew and Ellsbury. I am the one who said that Ellsbury would be lucky to have as much power as Crisp during his career, and the comparison to Ichiro and Ted Williams were a wet dream for pink hats and pipe dreaming vicarious losers who identify with Ellsbury instead of true superstars like Kemp. In fact, Ellsbury's power production over 2010 and 2011 averages out to the kind of overrated big FA contract seeking bum that he is. And while the much more talented J.D. Drew was villified by loser's like you, Ellsbury starts off 2012 with another "booboo" season, nearing the end of what was one of the most hyped and overrated Red Sox careers. 

    And your "short bus" comment was a juvenile delinquent's invective at the expense of children with special needs. I apologize to those children. They are the kind of citizens who do no harm and bring special talents to the world. You are an ape, who runs behind the most popular herd of delinquents. 

         
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Do the Math : Sorry Hanky. Your reputation is well known. You tried changing names to hide from it. Remember, you are the guy that wanted Cameron over Ellsbury and the guy who thinks Ellsbury has as much power as Coco Crisp. You are a walking tool bag with the brain of the dumbest kid on the short bus. You entertain us all with your posts that are soon proven wrong
    Posted by thepeskypole6[/QUOTE]

    No, Softy thought Coco had MORE power! And Ellsbury would be an short term wash out in the league.
     
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    I do agree that a middle of the order RH bat would really help though. Softy did also project a pretty good one in Kemp. HE'S MAKING A COMEBACK!

    I think we are going to have to suffice with Lavarnway in another month, and hope Youk reemerges. Who knows, maybe our new RH outfielder will help out some as well.
     
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    Byrd seems to hit better against RH pitching though:

     
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    Real math says the Sox are now 6-10 this year because the team ERA is the absolute worst in MLB by a good margin.  In the three prior years the Sox ERA was 8th, 9th, and 9th in the AL.  The Sox did indeed remain competitive--while not getting to the playoffs--because of the offense which was very good all three years and best in MLB in 2011 in runs scored and OPS.  The best example of course is last September when, just as has happened this month, the Sox pitching went due south and was the worst in MLB for that month while the bullpen blew 6 of 9 saves. 

    No one should be against a great righty bat, but lefty hitters have done pretty well for the Sox.  When Manny was having those great years, David Ortiz was having even greater years.  Last year's offense was overbalanced in favor of lefties, it's true, but they also led MLB in OPS and runs scored.  This might be because around 75% of all pitchers are righties, which gives lefty hitters an advantage.  However, I also think righty hitters adjust better to righty pitchers than do lefty hitters with lefty pitchers. 

    All of this discussion about the offense is academic unless and until the pitching is righted. 

    The definitive game of this season was game 3 at Detroit when the Sox gave the bullpen a three run lead in the 9th and a two run lead in the 11th and both times the bullpen gave up three runs. 

    Last night the Yankees Kuroda pitching well in Arlington, giving up just 2 runs, and the Yankees offense went scoreless.  This happens.  But, if softy were a Yankees fan, he would be over on their board with a thread entitled, "do the arithmetic." 

     
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    When the offense puts runs up early and scores 4 or more runs, they are 6-1. When the offense scores 3 runs or less, they are 0-8
    When the Red Sox pitch great, 3 runs or less, they are 1-3

    Another win with lousy pitching and solid offense against the hapless Twins. Only a moron says "it's the pitching".
     
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    Ellsbury hasn't produced a lot over the last 3 seasons. "On the shelf" would best descrive his season average production.
     
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    When the offense puts runs up early and scores 4 or more runs, they are 10-1.

    When the offense scores 3 runs or less, they are 1-9

    When the Red Sox pitch great, 3 runs or less, they are 4-3

    Good pitching by the Red Sox, yesterday, but a loss due to poor plate work. Without a consistent offense they will continue to manifest the zero playoff wins and near half a billion InEpstein construction.
     
    Early and solid hitting for the Red Sox. Poor pitching. Nice to see the identity of this team working wins.

    "The Red Sox lead the league in nearly every offensive category, it's the pitching". No it aint!
     
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    This thread just doesn't add up.
     
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    [QUOTE]This thread just doesn't add up.
    Posted by devildavid[/QUOTE]

    Hank isn't very bright.
     
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    But he is a high-powered lawyer with a giant gold hoard!
     
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    [QUOTE]But he is a high-powered lawyer with a giant gold hoard!
    Posted by Chilliwings[/QUOTE]

    I can tell he is an attorney because of the way he says prevaricate over and over again.  He must have forgotten to purchase his 2012 word of the day calendar.

     
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    When the offense puts runs up early and scores 4 or more runs, they are 10-1.

    When the offense scores 3 runs or less, they are 1-10

    When the Red Sox pitch great, 3 runs or less, they are 4-3

    Good pitching by the Red Sox, yesterday, but a loss due to poor plate work. Without a consistent offense they will continue to manifest the zero playoff wins and near half a billion InEpstein construction.
     
    Early and solid hitting for the Red Sox. Poor pitching. Nice to see the identity of this team working wins.

    Oakland, May 1, 2012   Pitching was fair for a Fenway/DH-AL game, offense was pitiful. Red Sox win or lose with the identity that doesn't fit the archaic cliche of many years ago, in the AL. 

    "The Red Sox lead the league in nearly every offensive category, it's the pitching". No it aint!
     
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    [QUOTE]When the offense puts runs up early and scores 4 or more runs, they are 10-1. When the offense scores 3 runs or less, they are 1-10 When the Red Sox pitch great, 3 runs or less, they are 4-3 Good pitching by the Red Sox, yesterday, but a loss due to poor plate work. Without a consistent offense they will continue to manifest the zero playoff wins and near half a billion InEpstein construction.   Early and solid hitting for the Red Sox. Poor pitching. Nice to see the identity of this team working wins. Oakland, May 1, 2012   Pitching was fair for a Fenway/DH-AL game, offense was pitiful. Red Sox win or lose with the identity that doesn't fit the archaic cliche of many years ago, in the AL.  "The Red Sox lead the league in nearly every offensive category, it's the pitching". No it aint!
    Posted by hankwilliamsjr[/QUOTE]

    Hilarious.
     
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    When the offense puts runs up early and scores 4 or more runs, they are 10-1.

    When the offense scores 3 runs or less, they are 1-10

    Laugh about that, trolling poster devildump with nothing but emotional reactionary ad hom spit balls.
     
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    When the offense puts runs up early and scores 4 or more runs, they are 10-1.
    When the offense scores 3 runs or less, they are 1-10
    Laugh about that, trolling poster devildump with nothing but emotional reactionary ad hom spit balls.


    Ok. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are a master of the obvious. No kidding, 3 runs or less leads to more losses. 23 games does not reveal the "identity" of any team in a 162 game season. Do the math.
     
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    ad hom spitballs.  awesome.  thanks hank, my next band name for sure.
     
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    "Consistent offense" is clearly in the eye of the beholder.  In Hankwilliamsjr's view, it's not consistent unless and until the offense always scores just enough runs to win and no more.  But guess what?  It doesn't work that way.

    Reality says the Sox have the 13th best/worst ERA in the AL, but have a W-L record of 11-12 because the offense is the best in MLB.  The two adjacent ERA's (12th and 14th) in the AL belong to Kansas City and Minnesota, and their W-L records are 6-16 and 6-17, respectively. 

    It is laughable when hankwilliamsjr argues that a lineup must score just the right amount of runs in each game because no team can do that. 

    Texas, it should be noted, comes close, but guess what?  They have an ERA of 2.92, the lowest in the AL and roughly half the runs/game as the Sox staff gives up.  And they score almost as many runs per game as the Sox. 

    Given that Youk seems to be marginalized, AGon ain't quite AGon, CC and Ells are out, and the Sox have four new guys (from last year) in the outfield and at SS, I think it's a minor miracle the Sox are hitting so well. 
     
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    My basic view is this:

    When the Sox scores five runs or more, I feel they should win. When they allow four runs or left they should win. Over the course of a season, there will be games when they score five runs or more and lose or score four runs or less and win, but over the course of the season, I feel it will balance out.

    So my that view, the Sox are exactly what they should be -- 11-12.

    They have scored five or more runs 11 times and they have allowed four runs or less 11 times.
     
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    Over the course of a season, there will be games when they score five runs or more and lose or score four runs or less and win, but over the course of the season, I feel it will balance out

    You feel wrong.

    No, Roy, it's not "what you feel aobut 5 runs or more", it's about the benchmark of 4 runs or more and the GM's inability to understand the statistics that show why spending over a half a billion dollars has netted zero playoff wins and one playoff spot. The identity of the Red Sox is consistent offense in relation to the competition. When Manny aged out, Henry has had a GM spending money for a lot of commercial left shoes and rubber arms. 

    The "it's the pitching" is the same as claiming "it's the drivng accuracy. 

    Basically, "WAR" cut and paste is the sum total of the pumpkin heads on this web site. WAR is a joke, in a team sport.
     

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