Do the Math

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    [QUOTE]When the offense puts runs up early and scores 4 or more runs, they are 10-1. When the offense scores 3 runs or less, they are 1-10 Laugh about that, trolling poster devildump with nothing but emotional reactionary ad hom spit balls.
    Posted by hankwilliamsjr[/QUOTE]


    Wait...so the Red Sox win more when they score more runs?
     
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    When the offense puts runs up early and scores 4 or more earned runs, they are 10-1.

    When the offense scores 3 runs or less earned runs, they are 1-12

    When the Red Sox pitch great, 3 runs or less, they are 4-3

    Good pitching by the Red Sox, yesterday, but a loss due to poor plate work. Without a consistent offense they will continue to manifest the zero playoff wins and near half a billion InEpstein construction.
     
    Early and solid hitting for the Red Sox. Poor pitching. Nice to see the identity of this team working wins.

    Oakland, May 1, 2012   Pitching was fair for a Fenway/DH-AL game, offense was pitiful.

    Oakland, May 2, 2012  Pitching was good in this Fenway/AL game, but the offense was pitiful. Good pitching, and another loss.

    Red Sox win or lose with the identity that doesn't fit the archaic cliche of many years ago, in the AL. Drones are like apes, except apes are much more intelligent.


    "The Red Sox lead the league in nearly every offensive category, it's the pitching". No it aint!
     
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    [QUOTE]ad hom spitballs.  awesome.  thanks hank, my next band name for sure.
    Posted by SpacemanEephus[/QUOTE]
    Playing tonight at the Paradise Rock Club ...
     
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    "Uh, Oh, Those Guys" was one of my favorite local bands. Ian Anderson used to get his band to change "uniforms" and band names to get rebooked at the nightclubs where they were flops. A few popular albums and a fish hatchery later, Anderson runs one of the most lucrative filthy profit enterprises in the entertainment and farming world. Perhaps a Benefit for Cross-Eyed Cherry. 

     
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    When the offense puts runs up early and scores 4 or more earned runs, they are 13-2.

    When the offense scores 3 earned runs or less, they are 1-16

    When the Red Sox pitch great, 3 runs or less, they are 6-4

    Red Sox in AL/DL/Fenway aren't going to be playing a bunch of pitching duel games, even with the best pitchers in baseball on the embarrassingly bloated with poor value payroll. Their winning identity is a more capable offense in the kind of individual games with plenty of runs scored that they will usually be involved in, not due to poor pitching, but due to AL/DH/Fenway.

    Good pitching by the Red Sox, yesterday, but a loss due to poor plate work. Without a consistent offense they will continue to manifest the zero playoff wins and near half a billion InEpstein construction.
     
    Early and solid hitting for the Red Sox. Poor pitching. Nice to see the identity of this team working wins.

    Oakland, May 1, 2012   Pitching was fair for a Fenway/DH-AL game, offense was pitiful.

    Oakland, May 2, 2012  Pitching was good in this Fenway/AL game, but the offense was pitiful. Good pitching, and another loss.

    O's, May 4, 2012  Pitching was good, only 4 runs through 9 in this Fenway/AL game, but the offense is unable to score more than 3 earned runs. Another loss. 

    O's, May 5, 2012 After 3 straight games of good pitching for each game, the pitching has a bad game and the pitiful offense continues to produce a string of pitiful offensive production games.

    O's, May 6, 2012 A rarity, the Red Sox score more than 3 earned runs but lose

    @ KC May 7, 2012 Offense wins one again

    @ KC May 8, 2012 Offense is pitiful v great J. Duffy and scores 3 ER Loss

    @ KC May 9, 2012 Good pitching but the Offense is pathetic against the great Bruce Chen 3 ER Loss

    Clev May 10, 2012 Offense a pitiful 3 ER v. Old journeyman Lowe

    Clev May 11, 2012  Offense Wins it and pitching with 4 ER is Good (People whine about the pitching in this game is pitiful) 

    Clev May 12, 2012 Offense hit magic number 4 ER and staff has a great pitching game

    Red Sox win or lose with the identity that doesn't fit the archaic cliche of many years ago, in the AL. Drones are like apes, except apes are much more intelligent.


    "The Red Sox lead the league in nearly every offensive category, it's the pitching". No it aint!
     
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    Blah -Blah-Blah---- This is not a good baseball team--- get used to it.  It is going to be a long season.  Bridge year?  I hope so -- meaning all of you fools ie "Softy" ---please jump off a bridge.
     
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    When the offense puts runs up early and

    scores 4 or more earned runs, they are
    13-2.

    When the offense scores 3 earned runs or

    less, they are 1-16

    When the Red Sox pitch great, 3 runs or less, they are 6-4

    Red Sox in AL/DL/Fenway aren't going to be playing a bunch of pitching duel games, even with the best pitchers in baseball on the embarrassingly bloated with poor value payroll. Their winning identity is a more capable offense in the kind of individual games with plenty of runs scored that they will usually be involved in, not due to poor pitching, but due to AL/DH/Fenway.

    Good pitching by the Red Sox, yesterday, but a loss due to poor plate work. Without a consistent offense they will continue to manifest the zero playoff wins and near half a billion InEpstein construction.
     
    Early and solid hitting for the Red Sox. Poor pitching. Nice to see the identity of this team working wins.

    Oakland, May 1, 2012   Pitching was fair for a Fenway/DH-AL game, offense was pitiful.

    Oakland, May 2, 2012  Pitching was good in this Fenway/AL game, but the offense was pitiful. Good pitching, and another loss.

    O's, May 4, 2012  Pitching was good, only 4 runs through 9 in this Fenway/AL game, but the offense is unable to score more than 3 earned runs. Another loss. 

    O's, May 5, 2012 After 3 straight games of good pitching for each game, the pitching has a bad game and the pitiful offense continues to produce a string of pitiful offensive production games.

    O's, May 6, 2012 A rarity, the Red Sox score more than 3 earned runs but lose

    @ KC May 7, 2012 Offense wins one again

    @ KC May 8, 2012 Offense is pitiful v great J. Duffy and scores 3 ER Loss

    @ KC May 9, 2012 Good pitching but the Offense is pathetic against the great Bruce Chen 3 ER Loss

    Clev May 10, 2012 Offense a pitiful 3 ER v. Old journeyman Lowe

    Clev May 11, 2012  Offense Wins it and pitching with 4 ER is Good (People whine about the pitching in this game is pitiful) 

    Clev May 12, 2012 Offense hit magic number 4 ER and staff has a great pitching game

    Red Sox win or lose with the identity that doesn't fit the archaic cliche of many years ago, in the AL. Drones are like apes, except apes are much more intelligent.


    "The Red Sox lead the league in nearly every offensive category, it's the pitching". No it aint!
     
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    are you still driveling on about how our horrid pitching is not the problem??

    learn a different tune. we're bored with this one
     
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    The "math" shows we are 7-3 in games our staff & defense lets up 0-3 runs. Yeah, maybe we should be 8-2 or maybe 9-1, but 2 games is not why we are 14-19.

    How about us being 4-1 in games our starters let up 5 runs? How much better is that from the league norm? Isn't that a sign that our offense bailed out the staff a little bit, thereby making up for the 1-3 record in 4 runs allowed games?

    We also have won 2 games when our staff let up 6 runs.

    Our staff and defense also has helped us lose in a game we scored 12 runs, another game we scored 9 runs, and one we scored 6 runs. 

    Do the math on those 3 games!

    Our offense has been missing 3 key players for most of the year. They have won about as many games as they have lost for us, the negative win differential lies with the staff and defense.
     
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    the only numbers he can understand are his own..
     
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    I think Hank is right in pointing out the hitting deficiencies. There is also no way to defend the starting pitching , which has been awful. Whatever happened to the idea that our " big three " are as good as any in the game ?  They have actually been among the worst in the game.
     
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    when you compare the hitting to the pitching the hitting has no defiencies.....
     
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    The "math" shows we are 7-3 in games our staff & defense lets up 0-3 runs. 

    Folks, an old pre-DH and oblivious to modern day techonology baseball prehistoric driveling mind. 4 or more is the magic number, and it has nothing to do with the pitching staff.
     
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    LOL hank your such a fool
     
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    [QUOTE]3  L 2  W 3  L 1  L 2  W Red Sox are 2-3  60% losers when pitching extremely well, allowing 3 runs or less The Red Sox are 4-2  66% winners when scoring 4 or more runs Do the math, and learn why Cano+Tex+ARoid had no problem winning a game with terrible Yankee pitching. The Red Sox play in a park and in a division and in a league where offense is more important than pitching. Get over it! Get a superstar RH bat between AGon and Ortiz and the Red Sox will have no problem winning games with lousy pitching
    Posted by hankwilliamsjr[/QUOTE]

    Pitching and the dumping of players not producing is the key to waking this team up permanently.  Nava and Middy have both given us more offense than Youk had, or DMac ever could.
     
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    The magic number is actually 5 not 4. Our median was 4 last year, and where did that get us?
     
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    I like math
     
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    When the offense puts runs up early and

    scores 4 or more earned runs, they are
    14-2.

    When the offense scores 3 earned runs or

    less, they are 1-16

    When the Red Sox pitch great, 3 runs or less, they are 6-4

    Red Sox in AL/DL/Fenway aren't going to be playing a bunch of pitching duel games, even with the best pitchers in baseball on the embarrassingly bloated with poor value payroll. Their winning identity is a more capable offense in the kind of individual games with plenty of runs scored that they will usually be involved in, not due to poor pitching, but due to AL/DH/Fenway.

    Good pitching by the Red Sox, yesterday, but a loss due to poor plate work. Without a consistent offense they will continue to manifest the zero playoff wins and near half a billion InEpstein construction.
     
    Early and solid hitting for the Red Sox. Poor pitching. Nice to see the identity of this team working wins.

    Oakland, May 1, 2012   Pitching was fair for a Fenway/DH-AL game, offense was pitiful.

    Oakland, May 2, 2012  Pitching was good in this Fenway/AL game, but the offense was pitiful. Good pitching, and another loss.

    O's, May 4, 2012  Pitching was good, only 4 runs through 9 in this Fenway/AL game, but the offense is unable to score more than 3 earned runs. Another loss. 

    O's, May 5, 2012 After 3 straight games of good pitching for each game, the pitching has a bad game and the pitiful offense continues to produce a string of pitiful offensive production games.

    O's, May 6, 2012 A rarity, the Red Sox score more than 3 earned runs but lose

    @ KC May 7, 2012 Offense wins one again

    @ KC May 8, 2012 Offense is pitiful v great J. Duffy and scores 3 ER Loss

    @ KC May 9, 2012 Good pitching but the Offense is pathetic against the great Bruce Chen 3 ER Loss

    Clev May 10, 2012 Offense a pitiful 3 ER v. Old journeyman Lowe

    Clev May 11, 2012  Offense Wins it and pitching with 4 ER is Good (People whine about the pitching in this game is pitiful) 

    Clev May 12, 2012 Offense hit magic number 4 ER and staff has a great pitching game

    Clev May 13, 2012 Offense scores early and carries the pitching to a huge cushion. The offense is the identity. It carries the pitching, not the other way around.

    Red Sox win or lose with the identity that doesn't fit the archaic cliche of many years ago, in the AL. Drones are like apes, except apes are much more intelligent.


    "The Red Sox lead the league in nearly every offensive category, it's the pitching". No it aint!
     
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    I did a full game log for August and September, which showed exactly what the Red Sox winning and losing identity is. And it's not about the pitching staff.
     
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    1) You neglect to point out that the main reason we in a position to make the playoffs before the collapse was out hitting.

    2) You look at the losses only, and neglect to point to all the August and September wins we got even though our staff let up 5 or more runs at home or 4+ runs on the road:
    8/8  Win 8-6 @MN
    8/12 W 6-2 @ Sea
    8/23 W 11-5 @ TX
    8/31 W 9-5 NYY
    9/3   W 12-7 TX
    9/13 W 18-6 Tor
    9/19 W 18-9 Bal
    9/25 W 7-4 @ NYY
    9/27 W 8-7 @ Bal

    3) You fail to acknowledge that we were 1 or 2 wins away from making the playoffs, but won't blame the staff even partially for losing these games in September:
    9/20 L 7-5
    9/19 L 6-5
    9/18 L 8-5
    9/10 L 6-5
    9/7   L 11-10

    4) The game logs showed that the Sox won less games than the rest of the league when scoring 1-4 runs. The offense has bailed out the pitching more times than most other teams, but the reverse just doesn't happen as much as it should.

    5) Our team ERA this year is about what Wake's was last year... yeah, your favorite buddy Tim.  I did a game by game log of Wake's games and showed you how many earned runs were allowed by  poor defense, infield hits to a slow left-side IF, bloop hits, passed balls (the VMart never had), and more inherited runners allowed to score from 1B than any other Sox starter. When the logs show you to be wrong, you ignore them. Now, you want us to believe your bunk about the reason we missed the playoffs was the offense?

    Silly clown.

    "Do the math" coming from the "median average" man is like trusting the economy to a guys like Romney or Obama.


     
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    1) You neglect to point out that the main reason we in a position to make the playoffs before the collapse was out hitting.

    No, that is my point.
     
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    When the offense puts runs up early and

    scores 4 or more earned runs, they are

    15-2.

    When the offense scores 3 earned runs or

    less, they are 1-16

    When the Red Sox pitch great, 3 runs or less, they are 6-4

    Red Sox in AL/DL/Fenway aren't going to be playing a bunch of pitching duel games, even with the best pitchers in baseball on the embarrassingly bloated with poor value payroll. Their winning identity is a more capable offense in the kind of individual games with plenty of runs scored that they will usually be involved in, not due to poor pitching, but due to AL/DH/Fenway.

    Good pitching by the Red Sox, yesterday, but a loss due to poor plate work. Without a consistent offense they will continue to manifest the zero playoff wins and near half a billion InEpstein construction.
     
    Early and solid hitting for the Red Sox. Poor pitching. Nice to see the identity of this team working wins.

    Oakland, May 1, 2012   Pitching was fair for a Fenway/DH-AL game, offense was pitiful.

    Oakland, May 2, 2012  Pitching was good in this Fenway/AL game, but the offense was pitiful. Good pitching, and another loss.

    O's, May 4, 2012  Pitching was good, only 4 runs through 9 in this Fenway/AL game, but the offense is unable to score more than 3 earned runs. Another loss. 

    O's, May 5, 2012 After 3 straight games of good pitching for each game, the pitching has a bad game and the pitiful offense continues to produce a string of pitiful offensive production games.

    O's, May 6, 2012 A rarity, the Red Sox score more than 3 earned runs but lose

    @ KC May 7, 2012 Offense wins one again

    @ KC May 8, 2012 Offense is pitiful v great J. Duffy and scores 3 ER Loss

    @ KC May 9, 2012 Good pitching but the Offense is pathetic against the great Bruce Chen 3 ER Loss

    Clev May 10, 2012 Offense a pitiful 3 ER v. Old journeyman Lowe

    Clev May 11, 2012  Offense Wins it and pitching with 4 ER is Good (People whine about the pitching in this game is pitiful) 

    Clev May 12, 2012 Offense hit magic number 4 ER and staff has a great pitching game

    Clev May 13, 2012 Offense scores early and carries the pitching to a huge cushion. The offense is the identity. It carries the pitching, not the other way around.

    Clev May 14, 2012 Offense scores early, reaches winning identity threshhold and one of the two decent starters needed to succeed in regular season and post season with winning identity pitches well

    (Note: This offense, as constructed, will never put up the consistent offense needed for the Red Sox winning identity that management is oblivious to)

    Red Sox win or lose with the identity that doesn't fit the archaic cliche of many years ago, in the AL. Drones are like apes, except apes are much more intelligent.


    "The Red Sox lead the league in nearly every offensive category, it's the pitching". No it aint!
     
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    [QUOTE]When the offense puts runs up early and scores 4 or more earned runs, they are 15-2. When the offense scores 3 earned runs or less, they are 1-16 When the Red Sox pitch great, 3 runs or less, they are 6-4 Red Sox in AL/DL/Fenway aren't going to be playing a bunch of pitching duel games, even with the best pitchers in baseball on the embarrassingly bloated with poor value payroll. Their winning identity is a more capable offense in the kind of individual games with plenty of runs scored that they will usually be involved in, not due to poor pitching, but due to AL/DH/Fenway. Good pitching by the Red Sox, yesterday, but a loss due to poor plate work. Without a consistent offense they will continue to manifest the zero playoff wins and near half a billion InEpstein construction.   Early and solid hitting for the Red Sox. Poor pitching. Nice to see the identity of this team working wins. Oakland, May 1, 2012   Pitching was fair for a Fenway/DH-AL game, offense was pitiful. Oakland, May 2, 2012  Pitching was good in this Fenway/AL game, but the offense was pitiful. Good pitching, and another loss. O's, May 4, 2012  Pitching was good, only 4 runs through 9 in this Fenway/AL game, but the offense is unable to score more than 3 earned runs. Another loss.  O's, May 5, 2012 After 3 straight games of good pitching for each game, the pitching has a bad game and the pitiful offense continues to produce a string of pitiful offensive production games. O's, May 6, 2012 A rarity, the Red Sox score more than 3 earned runs but lose @ KC May 7, 2012 Offense wins one again @ KC May 8, 2012 Offense is pitiful v great J. Duffy and scores 3 ER Loss @ KC May 9, 2012 Good pitching but the Offense is pathetic against the great Bruce Chen 3 ER Loss Clev May 10, 2012 Offense a pitiful 3 ER v. Old journeyman Lowe Clev May 11, 2012  Offense Wins it and pitching with 4 ER is Good (People whine about the pitching in this game is pitiful)  Clev May 12, 2012 Offense hit magic number 4 ER and staff has a great pitching game Clev May 13, 2012 Offense scores early and carries the pitching to a huge cushion. The offense is the identity. It carries the pitching, not the other way around. Clev May 14, 2012 Offense scores early, reaches winning identity threshhold and one of the two decent starters needed to succeed in regular season and post season with winning identity pitches well (Note: This offense, as constructed, will never put up the consistent offense needed for the Red Sox winning identity that management is oblivious to) Red Sox win or lose with the identity that doesn't fit the archaic cliche of many years ago, in the AL. Drones are like apes, except apes are much more intelligent. "The Red Sox lead the league in nearly every offensive category, it's the pitching". No it aint!
    Posted by hankwilliamsjr[/QUOTE]

    You're making a fool out of yourself.

     
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    You aren't making a fool of yourself, you are a fool. Try selling snake oil, elsewhere.

    When the offense puts runs up early and

    scores 4 or more earned runs, they are

    15-2.

    When the offense scores 3 earned runs or

    less, they are 1-16

     
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    The Sox have the second best hitting/scoring in the AL, but have a losing record.  Why?  Because their team ERA is next to worst in the AL.  The Rangers have the best record in the AL because they have great hitting and great pitching.  The Orioles are tied atop the AL East because for now they have excellent pitching and pretty good hitting. 

    Of course the Sox need good hitting.  They always have.  But they missed the playoffs in 2009, 2010, and 2011 and will miss them again in 2012 if the pitching doesn't improve.  Not great pitching, not the lowest ERA in the AL.  But an ERA that is at least in the top half of the AL.  In 2009, the Sox had the 3d best scoring in the AL, in 2010 it was 2d best, and last year it was the best in the AL. 

    You can't win--get into the playoffs--on hitting alone.  You must have decent pitching.  In 2004 the Sox had the 3d best ERA in the AL and in 2007 it was the best ERA in the AL.
     

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