Re: Do you try and extend Ellsbury?
posted at 1/1/2013 3:52 PM EST
- In response to moonslav59's comment:
In response to Schumpeters-Ghost's comment:
In response to moonslav59's comment:
Since it's his contract year, maybe he won't milk any small injuries, buta I'd put the over/under at about 130 games.
If forced to bet, I'd bet the under.
Can you point to a minor injury that Ellsbury has "milked"???
He's been scratched from a few line-ups near the last minute, then played the next day or so.
However, that wasn't my point. My point was that I do not think Ellsbury will "milk" any injuries this contract year. That does not mean I know he has milked injuries in the past. Perhaps he has: perhaps not. Different people have different pain threshholds, and not all injuries are the same.
I made my point about Jacoby not calling off Beltre on the collision play. I have re-watched the play countless times and never saw Ellsbury's lips move, yet some on this board have continually blamed Beltre for doing what every infielder has been taught to do- run hard for any popup until called off. Others on this board act as if his injury was totally unavoidable, bad luck, or a freakish type injury that should not be held against him in any way.
I have never said Ellsbury is injury prone, and I have defended Jacoby against the clown softy's continuous rants more than anyone else on this board, as well as his bashing Jed for his injury issues. We will never know if Ellsbury milked the rib injury or not. I prefer to give him and any player the benefit of doubt. I even gave Manny the benefit of doubt towards the end of his time here in Boston, however, I do think Ellsbury's OF play is a bit reckless, and for this reason, I think he may be more likely than the average MLB player to get injured again.
One thing i remember with the Red Sox team during the Francona years was
the lack of discipline. I love Pedroia but how many times he would try to make an
over the headcatch when it could have been a much easier catch for the outfielder.
It is the manager's job to discipline his players not to allow strong willed players
like Pedroia or Beltre to put other players at risk. If you all remember how Ellsbury
was disrespected more than once in his early years. When Cameron came to the
team Theo and Francona wanted to roll out the red carpet for him stick Ellsbury
in left so Cameron can be shown all the respect. For those who think that Ellsbury
will go ellsewhere and not stay with the Red Sox I am sure he was given many
reasons to go to another team. Even Francona in an interview admited that Ellsbury
was not supported enough by him and by the team. As great a players manager Tito
was his team was very undisciplined as we saw with that horible September colapse.
It was so evident so many times where infielders would risk injury to themselves and
others so they could make a spectacular catch it is up to the manager to set some
guidelines. How many times a player with the skill set of Ellsbury comes along.
Elite speed power even his arm has been geting stronger. The only negative with
Ellsbury is called Boras. If he is gone after this year it will be our loss and someone