Does Tampa keep Keppinger, Briegnac and Rodriguez

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    Does Tampa keep Keppinger, Briegnac and Rodriguez

    And if the don't are any of them an upgrade over Aviles?
     
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    Brignac is the weakest of the 3 and likely has options left.   
     
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    Brignac is a good fielder but lousy hitter.  Keppinger is a good hitter but lousyfielder.  Rodriguez is the most versatile of the bunch and actually has good hitting potential.

    Our SS will probably be Iglesias.  I think Rey Ordonez' former manager will see the similieatities and no be afraid to start the season with him...
     
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    Re: Does Tampa keep Keppinger, Briegnac and Rodriguez

    In response to "Re: Does Tampa keep Keppinger, Briegnac and Rodriguez": [QUOTE]Brignac is a good fielder but lousy hitter.  Keppinger is a good hitter but lousyfielder.  Rodriguez is the most versatile of the bunch and actually has good hitting potential. Our SS will probably be Iglesias.  I think Rey Ordonez' former manager will see the similieatities and no be afraid to start the season with him... Posted by notin[/QUOTE] Divisional trades among contenders just don't ever really happen either...
     
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    I think TB keeps all three and none are much better, if at all than Aviles/Iggy.
     
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    In Response to Does Tampa keep Keppinger, Briegnac and Rodriguez:
    [QUOTE]And if the don't are any of them an upgrade over Aviles?
    Posted by rkarp[/QUOTE]

    Not ! And who cares? Will the front office listen to any yahoo on here??? NOT!!!!
     
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    Re: Does Tampa keep Keppinger, Briegnac and Rodriguez

    That's not the reason any of us post here.
     
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    If Tampa is in 1st place come July 1, or within 8 games and playing well they will finally make the trade that the FO should have made last season. That trade will be a key pitcher for a pending 2013 free agent. 

    Watch out for Tampa more than any other team in the AL ..... they are even better this year than last.
     
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    [QUOTE]If Tampa is in 1st place come July 1, or within 8 games and playing well they will finally make the trade that the FO should have made last season. That trade will be a key pitcher for a pending 2013 free agent.  Watch out for Tampa more than any other team in the AL ..... they are even better this year than last.
    Posted by BurritoZ[/QUOTE]

    There was talk they might trade Shields this winter, but I think they see the window is open and might go for it all this year. They could trade Nieman or Davis and get decent returns in July, but trading Shields next winter rather than pay $9M next year and $12M in 2014 might be their plan. If they plan on that, they may want to hold onto Nieman and Davis in case Cobb doesn't work out.

    It's nice to have so many pitching choices, and again, it looks like the Rays will not go away!

    I think Jennings for a full year could be a huge offensive upgrade for the Rays as well. Pena & Scott might not be much of an upgrade over kotch and damon. 

     
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    Re: Does Tampa keep Keppinger, Briegnac and Rodriguez

    Shields is the "stopper" the "leader" and you do not trade that if you are trying to win the WS...

    Scott/Pena are a definate upgrdade on paper. Kotchman/Damon over-achieved.
     
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    Re: Does Tampa keep Keppinger, Briegnac and Rodriguez

    Shields is the "stopper" the "leader" and you do not trade that if you are trying to win the WS...

    I know, and I seriously doubt he will be traded this summer, unless they are 10 down by the end of July. I'd say the odds are better than 50% that he is traded before 2014.

    Scott/Pena are a d.efinate upgrdade on paper. Kotchman/Damon over-achieved.

    I wouldn't say"definate". Kotchman's season was not as big a fluke as it appeared. Pena and Scott are not exactly on the upward part of the career trends. 

    My point was that they will probably b.reak even with 2011's 1B/DH production
     
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    [QUOTE]Shields is the "stopper" the "leader" and you do not trade that if you are trying to win the WS... Scott/Pena are a definate upgrdade on paper. Kotchman/Damon over-achieved.
    Posted by BurritoZ[/QUOTE]

    But the p[ressurew it still on Scott and Pena to surpass what Kotchman and Damon did lasty year.  What Casey and Johnny do in 2012 is irrelevant for the Rays.

    And alst season, Scott and Pena were only about the same as the 2 Rays - within .001 OPS point.  So really, the pressure is not on them to outperform the 2 dearted RAys, but to improve on their own 2011 seasons.   They could both do it, but it is far from a guarantee...
     
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    In Response to Re: Does Tampa keep Keppinger, Briegnac and Rodriguez:
    [QUOTE]If Tampa is in 1st place come July 1, or within 8 games and playing well they will finally make the trade that the FO should have made last season. That trade will be a key pitcher for a pending 2013 free agent.  Watch out for Tampa more than any other team in the AL ..... they are even better this year than last.
    Posted by BurritoZ[/QUOTE]

    Seriously you believe that. Yes they have good SP and their RP has the ability (like any other team ) to be good.However just remember they were next to last in hitting last year. They have not signed their only 300 hitter. Then they had only two who hit between 270 and 280 and all others were around 250. They signed a 30/40 HR guy who K's more than he get hits he hits around 225. So for them to contend again they are TOTALLY banking on their pitching.
    If the RP just pitch to their career averages they are dead. Which is what has happened in the past. Every year the Rays have made the playoffs the RP carried a poor hitting team.
     
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    Re: Does Tampa keep Keppinger, Briegnac and Rodriguez

    Seriously you believe that. Yes they have good SP and their RP has the ability (like any other team ) to be good.However just remember they were next to last in hitting last year. They have not signed their only 300 hitter. Then they had only two who hit between 270 and 280 and all others were around 250. They signed a 30/40 HR guy who K's more than he get hits he hits around 225. So for them to contend again they are TOTALLY banking on their pitching. 
    If the RP just pitch to their career averages they are dead. Which is what has happened in the past. Every year the Rays have made the playoffs the RP carried a poor hitting team.

    Good points, but...

    1) Longoria will likely do much better in 2012.
    2) Jennings will be on the team from start to finish.
    3) Matt Joyce could be poised for a break-out year.
    4) Upton has added incentive to have a big year.
     

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