Re: final piece
posted at 1/24/2012 10:05 PM EST
In Response to Re: final piece
[QUOTE]In response to "Re: final piece": That's the problem, Parhunter. I'm not a fan of moving a couple of top prospects for a 4th or 5th starter. If Bard's changeup has developed like we've heard, be may end up being the best 4th starter in baseball. Between Padilla, Cook, Silva, Aceves, Tazawa, Doubront, Miller, etc., you have to think one of these guys can emerge as the 5th starter to start the season. Im all for bringing in another arm, and I like Floyd, but I'd rather save some flexibility for the deadline.
Posted by jasko2248[/QUOTE]
Floyd is not a 4/5 starter, even though that would be his slot here with the top 3 healthy.
Top 150 MLB starters since 2008 by IP (300+):
WAR: 19th (Rate: mid/lower #1 starter)
(just below Buehrle, Danks, Johnson & Cain/just above Shields & Carpenter)
ERA: 71st (Rate: middle/lower 3rd starter)
WHIP: 39th (Rate: top 2nd starter)
AL rank: (top 70 starters... 14 teams x 5 starters=70)
WAR: 11th (Just ahead of Shields & Santana)
ERA: 30th (Just behind Beckett & Masterson)
WHIP: 19th (Just behind Lester/Garza/Shields)
I'm not saying he's better than some of these guys on these lists, but he certainly is not the league average 4/5 starter.
AL 4th and 5th starters would be rated #42-70, not 11th to 30th. If anything, he's a solid AL 3 slot starter, and one could argue he is more like a solid 2 starter.
In 2011, he rated (in the AL):
WAR: 14th out of 70. (Rated the lowest 1 slot starter)
ERA: 40th (bottom 3 starter)
WHIP: 15th (best 2 slot starter in AL)