Re: If I am New York I will tell Sabathia to BITE ME!
posted at 10/9/2011 1:00 PM EDT
In Response to Re: If I am New York I will tell Sabathia to BITE ME!
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: If I am New York I will tell Sabathia to BITE ME! : Now you are putting words in my mouth...I never said he didn't deserve a raise...I just said that it was unreasonal that any teams other than the Sox or Yanks would pay him more than what he's getting now.but I'm not ignorant to the fact that if another team steps up it would be for more than what he's making now...but TORONTO?? In my opinion I don't see either Chicago team going that hard after him...where were all these teams when he was signed by NY the first time? If they're going to pay the guy now why didn't they step up a few years ago when he already had a great reputation and was 3 years younger? With all thats going on here with the Sox right now and with some of the bad BIG DOLLAR signings they've experienced the last few years, I think they're extremely hesitant to extend a huge contract to Sabathia. Lastly, make no mistake that this is a Red Sox message board even though BDC makes it extremely easy for anyone to sign up and join, and for some odd reason there are lots of Yankee fans that come here for intelligent baseball conversation rather than visit a Yankee cheerleader message board. Keep in mind that 50% of these Yankee fans come here to talk baseball the others are trolls just looking to instigate...which one are you hobrien?
Posted by Soxdog67[/QUOTE]
To begin with I'm not putting words in your mouth.
Plus, did CC lead them to a 2011 championship to deserve a raise??
That would clearly imply that you don't agree that he should be get a new or better contract. I'd suggest that his performance over the last three years would show that he's earned what he's been paid, .. would be the best pitcher available if he decided to opt out, (which he'll almost certainly do, or at least renegotiate with the Yankees), ... and he'll certainly get a better and longer deal than the 4yrs/92 mil remaining on his Yankee contract. As a Yankee fan I might not like it but the fact is the Yankees gave him this provision. Only a fool wouldn't take advantage of it.
You might not think that Toronto, the Chicago teams, the LAA or Rangers or even Phils are a good fits for any number of reasons but they all have the need and the resources so they are in fact candidates. That pretty much trumps any and all reasons and in time we'll see if they have the will. Whether they make an effort or not will be a matter dependent upon a number of variables. But, the all have the means and the need.
The RS are a good landing spot for him too, all things considered, because they too need starting pitching, an ace, and because it would do significant harm to one of their main rivals. One of the biggest things working against them, as you suggest, is that the RS are feeling a bit snake bit about big time FA contracts with long term nine figure commitments thanks to Lackey and to a lesser extent Crawford. That, however, is not a good reason to not sign the right player. But, the other major factors are that the manager needs to be replaced and perhaps the GM too. Until those two things are settled it's less likely that the RS will move to acquire anyone of significance.
As far as the whole troll thing, .. it's a useless concept. Anytime someone that isn't a card carrying member of the Nation says anything around here they're suspect. And, if they say anything critical or disagreeable no matter whether it's intelligent, "respectful" or otherwise they're a troll. If you disagree tell me why I'm wrong rather than beat me over the head with my team preference. Is it worse that a Yankee fan post something here that you disagree with or that a RS fan, like that Smiley numskull makes one after another idiotic threads or post? Because while you might not agree with the former, .. the latter causes far more trouble.
The notion that a blog or message board is or should be exclusive to it's constituency is illogical as it is counter productive. The whole idea behind blogs/message boards/Internet is to discuss, share and expand communication and knowledge. To get more insight into the topic being discussed. Since the RS don't exist n a vacuum if "RS blogs are limited to ust the Nation than clearly limits the experience and the benefits. Also, if this is a "Red Sox" message board what's the reasoning for this thread?
"...which one are you hobrien?"
It doesn't matter. While knowing I'm a Yankee fan might give you information regarding my perspective it doesn't change the logic or lack of same when I post something. If you've issue with my ideas or logic then address that and in short order it wont matter that I'm a life long Yankee fan that happens to visit this as well as a number of other blogs to discuss baseball in general.