Iglesias Has Been Pasting the Ball

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    Iglesias Has Been Pasting the Ball

    The kid has obviously put in some serious work over the winter.  Still struggling with pitch selection.  But much better than last year.  Don't know if he is picking up the ball better, or just getting more savvy with knowing what pitches he can drive.  But, when he makes contact, he has been crackin' the ball.  Great sign.  He is staying back on balls he was rolling over on last year.  Looks pretty comfortable and, dare I say, powerful.  He is getting in touch with his inner Slugging Shortstop.  haha.

    I am much more optimistic about his offensive outlook than I was before camp.

    Softy, does this make me a coward?

     
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    He's had a lot of hard outs this spring as well. If 8-10 of them went for hits, I wonder how many threads would be started on him.

     
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    should be interesting to see just how much he has progressed in his next 300 ABs.

     
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    He's had a lot of hard outs this spring as well. If 8-10 of them went for hits, I wonder how many threads would be started on him.



    Yes Moon.  That is why I started this thread.  He has been consistently tattoing the ball, even when making outs.  his batting average is certainly no reflection of how locked in he has been, though his slugging % is a better indicator of this phenomenon.

     
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    He should be our shortstop. Period.  The Drew signing was a mistake. 

     
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    I'd be hypocritical if I got too excited because Iglesias is hitting decent this spring.  But ST stats aren't 100% useless, they are just to be taken with one huge hefty grain of salt.

    Still the size he has put on is appearent in how the ball comes off his bat now.  Even last year, Iggy had no problem keeping up with a MLB fastball.  He has the bat speed, he can hit a heater but a.) he was so weak that a hard hit ball for him was a routine fly out last year, and b.) he was easily fooled by offspeed pitches.

     

    The fact that the ball jumps off his bat better I think would automatically give him 10-12 more hits a year without any improvement at the plate, and I expect him to improve his approach.  I feel confident that Iggy could hit .250 this year which should be accaptable considering how good his defense is and how low expectations are.  And lets also keep in mind that he still may have some room left for growth with the bat as well. 

     
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    He's had a lot of hard outs this spring as well. If 8-10 of them went for hits, I wonder how many threads would be started on him.



    And of those threads, how many would be initiated by Bill?

     
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    In response to dgalehouse's comment:

    He should be our shortstop. Period.  The Drew signing was a mistake. 




    It looks as if it could be now, but last year gave no indication that Iggy was going to hit. He looked very over matched last year. He has bulked up a little and looks a lot more comfortable up there. Unfortunately the Sox couldnt look into the future last year and see this happening, so they covered their azz. 

     
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    He should be our shortstop. Period.  The Drew signing was a mistake. 

     




    It looks as if it could be now, but last year gave no indication that Iggy was going to hit. He looked very over matched last year. He has bulked up a little and looks a lot more comfortable up there. Unfortunately the Sox couldnt look into the future last year and see this happening, so they covered their azz. 

     




    And Drew is only on a one year deal. So worst case would be Iggy goes back down to Pawtucket when Drew gets healthy and has a year to build his confidence at the plate. Best case would be they're both playing good and we spin Drew for another power arm for Pawtucket or Portland.

     
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    In response to carnie's comment:

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    He should be our shortstop. Period.  The Drew signing was a mistake. 

     




    It looks as if it could be now, but last year gave no indication that Iggy was going to hit. He looked very over matched last year. He has bulked up a little and looks a lot more comfortable up there. Unfortunately the Sox couldnt look into the future last year and see this happening, so they covered their azz. 

     

     




    And Drew is only on a one year deal. So worst case would be Iggy goes back down to Pawtucket when Drew gets healthy and has a year to build his confidence at the plate. Best case would be they're both playing good and we spin Drew for another power arm for Pawtucket or Portland.

     




    I was just going to post something like this. My best-case scenario right now is that Iglesias keeps up his success at Pawtucket while Drew has a nice first half and gets us some value in a midseason trade.

     
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    IGGy is another one that DAD & BILL-806 has been advocating for !!!

     
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    IGGy is another one that DAD & BILL-806 has been advocating for !!!



    Yes, we know Bill, we know.

     
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    He should be our shortstop. Period.  The Drew signing was a mistake. 



    +1000

     
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    In response to Flapjack07's comment:

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    He should be our shortstop. Period.  The Drew signing was a mistake. 

     




    It looks as if it could be now, but last year gave no indication that Iggy was going to hit. He looked very over matched last year. He has bulked up a little and looks a lot more comfortable up there. Unfortunately the Sox couldnt look into the future last year and see this happening, so they covered their azz. 

     

     




    And Drew is only on a one year deal. So worst case would be Iggy goes back down to Pawtucket when Drew gets healthy and has a year to build his confidence at the plate. Best case would be they're both playing good and we spin Drew for another power arm for Pawtucket or Portland.

     

     




    I was just going to post something like this. My best-case scenario right now is that Iglesias keeps up his success at Pawtucket while Drew has a nice first half and gets us some value in a midseason trade.

     



    yea Ok...they are all going to be lining up to sign Drew and his TEN MILLION DOLLAR Salary because he is such a valuable player..

    is it possible just to say that the Drew signing, like the Bailey trade, was a huge mistake?

     
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    In response to georom4's comment:

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    He should be our shortstop. Period.  The Drew signing was a mistake. 

     




    It looks as if it could be now, but last year gave no indication that Iggy was going to hit. He looked very over matched last year. He has bulked up a little and looks a lot more comfortable up there. Unfortunately the Sox couldnt look into the future last year and see this happening, so they covered their azz. 

     

     




    And Drew is only on a one year deal. So worst case would be Iggy goes back down to Pawtucket when Drew gets healthy and has a year to build his confidence at the plate. Best case would be they're both playing good and we spin Drew for another power arm for Pawtucket or Portland.

     

     




    I was just going to post something like this. My best-case scenario right now is that Iglesias keeps up his success at Pawtucket while Drew has a nice first half and gets us some value in a midseason trade.

     

     



    yea Ok...they are all going to be lining up to sign Drew and his TEN MILLION DOLLAR Salary because he is such a valuable player..

     

    is it possible just to say that the Drew signing, like the Bailey trade, was a huge mistake?




    Is it possible for you to ever say the Red Sox actually did something right? Other than hiring little Bobby V that is.

     
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    In response to georom4's comment:

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    He should be our shortstop. Period.  The Drew signing was a mistake. 

     




    It looks as if it could be now, but last year gave no indication that Iggy was going to hit. He looked very over matched last year. He has bulked up a little and looks a lot more comfortable up there. Unfortunately the Sox couldnt look into the future last year and see this happening, so they covered their azz. 

     

     




    And Drew is only on a one year deal. So worst case would be Iggy goes back down to Pawtucket when Drew gets healthy and has a year to build his confidence at the plate. Best case would be they're both playing good and we spin Drew for another power arm for Pawtucket or Portland.

     

     




    I was just going to post something like this. My best-case scenario right now is that Iglesias keeps up his success at Pawtucket while Drew has a nice first half and gets us some value in a midseason trade.

     

     



    yea Ok...they are all going to be lining up to sign Drew and his TEN MILLION DOLLAR Salary because he is such a valuable player..



    idk why you emphasised his salary... that's the easiest thing to sell. Eat the money, as long as we don't go over the luxury tax  who cares how much we spend? getting the other team to pick up his entire contract isn't going to lower ticket prices.. eating the money will also net us a better return if he does get traded. Iggy still has to show he can hit like this consistently in AAA.. once Drew is back of course.

     
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    In response to georom4's comment:

     

    yea Ok...they are all going to be lining up to sign Drew and his TEN MILLION DOLLAR Salary because he is such a valuable player..

     

    is it possible just to say that the Drew signing, like the Bailey trade, was a huge mistake?

     




    I'd have been fine with never signing Drew to begin with and letting Iggy start, but Drew is here now...I'd like to give him a couple of innings this season, and maybe even a game or two, before labelling him a "huge mistake." So far his only wrongdoing is getting hit in the head.

     
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    In response to georom4's comment:

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    He should be our shortstop. Period.  The Drew signing was a mistake. 

     




    It looks as if it could be now, but last year gave no indication that Iggy was going to hit. He looked very over matched last year. He has bulked up a little and looks a lot more comfortable up there. Unfortunately the Sox couldnt look into the future last year and see this happening, so they covered their azz. 

     

     




    And Drew is only on a one year deal. So worst case would be Iggy goes back down to Pawtucket when Drew gets healthy and has a year to build his confidence at the plate. Best case would be they're both playing good and we spin Drew for another power arm for Pawtucket or Portland.

     

     




    I was just going to post something like this. My best-case scenario right now is that Iglesias keeps up his success at Pawtucket while Drew has a nice first half and gets us some value in a midseason trade.

     

     



    yea Ok...they are all going to be lining up to sign Drew and his TEN MILLION DOLLAR Salary because he is such a valuable player..

     

    is it possible just to say that the Drew signing, like the Bailey trade, was a huge mistake?



    No, 142 million dollars is a huge mistake.  10 million dollars for one year was just a mistake. 

     
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    In response to georom4's comment:

    In response to Flapjack07's comment:

     

    In response to carnie's comment:

     

    In response to southpaw777's comment:

     

    In response to dgalehouse's comment:

     

    He should be our shortstop. Period.  The Drew signing was a mistake. 

     




    It looks as if it could be now, but last year gave no indication that Iggy was going to hit. He looked very over matched last year. He has bulked up a little and looks a lot more comfortable up there. Unfortunately the Sox couldnt look into the future last year and see this happening, so they covered their azz. 

     

     




    And Drew is only on a one year deal. So worst case would be Iggy goes back down to Pawtucket when Drew gets healthy and has a year to build his confidence at the plate. Best case would be they're both playing good and we spin Drew for another power arm for Pawtucket or Portland.

     

     




    I was just going to post something like this. My best-case scenario right now is that Iglesias keeps up his success at Pawtucket while Drew has a nice first half and gets us some value in a midseason trade.

     

     



    yea Ok...they are all going to be lining up to sign Drew and his TEN MILLION DOLLAR Salary because he is such a valuable player..

     

    is it possible just to say that the Drew signing, like the Bailey trade, was a huge mistake?




    read my earlier post. That pretty much sums it up.

     
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    Two BB and 9 k in 50 or so ab seems to indicate he need time at AAA   .Drew wiil be the starting SS all season.



    Well....Drew may be on the D.L. to start the season so he can't be there "all season" 

    Seeing how Drew is a horrible defensive SS the bar is pretty low for Iggy at a defense first position.  So if Drew is hitting .250 with .700 OPS next year then we mine as well plug Iggy in there.  At least he can get better offensively as the season goes on, in contrast to Drew who will be 30....I doubt there is any room for growth there, more likely regression. 

     
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    In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:

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    Two BB and 9 k in 50 or so ab seems to indicate he need time at AAA   .Drew wiil be the starting SS all season.

     



    Well....Drew may be on the D.L. to start the season so he can't be there "all season" 

     

    Seeing how Drew is a horrible defensive SS the bar is pretty low for Iggy at a defense first position.  So if Drew is hitting .250 with .700 OPS next year then we mine as well plug Iggy in there.  At least he can get better offensively as the season goes on, in contrast to Drew who will be 30....I doubt there is any room for growth there, more likely regression. 




    Drew is NOT a horrible defensive SS. Dont just look at the numbers and base your decision on defensive metrics. defensive metrics dont take into account all the variables. It says his range is poor, which I can agree with. What I have an issue with is people going by those numbers and coming to the conclusion that a player is a horrible defender without seeing his play live.

    Drew is a smart player that positions himself correctly based on the batter, the pitch being thrown and the situation on the field at the time. He handles almost everything he gets to. Im not saying hes in the same league as Iggy, but hes far from as bad as some defensive metrics say he is.

     
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    Not to throw a damper on this thread, but BR tells us that the average quality of pitching Iggy has faced is just about AAA level. Still, its an improvement over what he has previously done vs AAA pitching. He has had about 20% of a reasonable number of ABs to make any kind of assessment of how much he has improved. Once he gets another 200 or so ABs at Pawtucket we will be able to make some conclusions.

     
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    In response to dgalehouse's comment:

     

    He should be our shortstop. Period.  The Drew signing was a mistake. 

     



    You can't blame our FO for signing a few available FA's to stay above water while our kids develop.  If I were assessing the same situation from past history?  I wouldn't do much differently other than the choice of FA's we signed. 

     

    Bradley may be ready a lot quiker than expected but our FO's expectations were for him to take over CF, if or when we lose Ells which isn't far fetched.  Because of Iggy's offensive numbers and lack of strength before ST he went into camp figuring to be our third choice for the starting SS position, maybe 4th, with Bogy in the picture.  Players need to earn positions by proving they can defend and get OB often enough to help our lineup, not be handed the position each year because they hit 25 Hrs or play decent defense.  Lineups "like ours" already have too many of these type of players which doesn't help our club improve.

    The decisions on players like Salty and Iggy will probably be made after the 2013 season as to whether our FO feels they are long term assets as starters.  Bradley and Bogy have a lot more natural talent and probably won't have the same issues. 

    With that said, It would be great if Iggy and Bogy could break our lineup at different positions along with Bradley.  Theres nothing like a good young crop of farm hands helping our lineup as we all remember.

     

     

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