INGLESAIS WILL BE THE OPENING DAY SHORTSTOP, AND THE PITCHING STAFF WILL BE....

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    i agree that iglesias should get a chance to start. he is our best option at this point. he hit .235 at pawtucket last year and in AA he hit .285. in his short stint in the majors last season he hit .333. he is not that bad of a hitter. and he provides excellent defense at a position where defense is key. ozzie smith who is one of the best shortstops of all time had a batting average under .250 for the first 6 years of his career. shortstop is not about hitting. sure it is nice to have a good hitting shortstop, but does it really matter if he plays gold glove quality defense and bats 9th? give him a shot. keeps punto and aviles on the bench.
     
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    The second coming of Ozzie Smith?....We might see that in a year (though I doubt it), but THIS year will involve the Aviles/Punto platoon...The Bosox will lament the dump of Scutaro, especially if any injuries to Aviles or Punto come into play....Even if not, this is the worst Red Sox FO move in some time....

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    IGLESIAS IS MY EVERY DAY SS ! 
    AND THAT WILL BE FOR BOBBY V 

    WITH THE REST OF THE OFENSE, IGLESIAS CAN BE A UPGRADE FOR THE DEFENSE AND EVERYTHING HE HIT, WILL BE GOOD FOR THE TEAM ... 

    IGLESIAS IS OUR BEST OPTION! LET HIM CATCH MORE EXPERIENCE AT MLB... NO HAVE BETTER PLACE TO THAT

     
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    IGLESIAS IS MY EVERY DAY SS ! 
    AND THAT WILL BE FOR BOBBY V 

    WITH THE REST OF THE OFENSE, IGLESIAS CAN BE A UPGRADE FOR THE DEFENSE AND EVERYTHING HE HIT, WILL BE GOOD FOR THE TEAM ... 

    IGLESIAS IS OUR BEST OPTION! LET HIM CATCH MORE EXPERIENCE AT MLB... NO HAVE BETTER PLACE TO THAT

     
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    The only reason I would consider keeping him in the minors for part of the season would be based on money.  After this season, if they have Lavarnway, Kalish, Middlebrooks, and Iglesias starting, that's for key positions on the roster filled by super cheap players.  With Matsuzaka and Youkilis coming off the books, that could free up a good amount of space to manuever unlike this offseason. That would give you at least 5 years of those 4 together, if the team wants that.  Granted, it's not necessarily safe to assume that 4 guys are going to progress from AAA to major league starter in one season, but all 4 guys are slated to start this year in Pawtucket (if they don't break camp with the team), and are viewed as guys that could contribute this year. Since the other 5 guys in the lineup are Gonzalez, Crawford, Ellsbury, Pedroia, and Ortiz (assuming he comes back next year), it's not like you are looking for any of the rookies to be the key piece in your lineup.

    Truthfully though, I think they'd all be ready to play this year, maybe not right off the bat, but shortly thereafter. 
     
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    There is no danger of Shortstop Superman coming, especially with a potential .200 BA...He is not the answer to the Red Sox problems.....

    “Pray for the dead, and fight like hell for the living.”

    -          “Mother” Mary Harris Jones (union and community organizer, born 1837 (Ireland) – 1930 (U.S.))

    “You see, until a few weeks ago, it seemed as if Wall Street had effectively bribed and bullied our political system into forgetting about that whole drawing lavish paychecks while destroying the world economy thing. Then, all of a sudden, some people insisted on bringing the subject up again. And their (Occupy Wall Street) outrage has found resonance with millions of Americans. No wonder Wall Street is whining.”

    -          Paul Krugman, Princeton economist, N.Y. Times column, 10/16/11


     
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    Do any of you remember Mark Belanger? He couldn't hit either but played on many good Baltimore teams that won. But could he play defence.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: INGLESAIS WILL BE THE OPENING DAY SHORTSTOP, AND THE PITCHING STAFF WILL BE.... : Just in case you come back and want to discuss it, with all due respect, you strike me as someone that isn't too bright.  Let me know if you'd like me to explain it to you.
    Posted by Joebreidey[/QUOTE]JOE, I THINK THAT YOU WERE A LITTLE HARD ON WONDERDRUMSTOO...... HECK, IT WAS ONLY HIS 3RD POST....  HOWEVER, I THINK THAT HE WAS "SPOT ON" IN SAYING THAT "THE SOX WENT WITH V-TECK'S BAT AND HE/I WOULD RATHER GO WITH IGG'S GLOVE AND LET HIS BAT TAKE CARE OF ITSELF...... THE LAST 2 YEARS, TECK'S GLOVE & BAT HAD GONE SOUTH !!  THE PITCHERS ARE GOING TO LOVE IGG'S GLOVE !!!
     
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    Inglesias will start the season in Pawtucket and if hitting has improved will be called up before the All Star game, if not the RS will make a trade for a SS.  Do not see Aviles or Punto as year long answer at SS.
     
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    Do you put any credence in the fact that with less than 700 pa's under his belt, "giving him a chance" may result in regression to his offensive game? I am also of the opinion that for this team to contend they must be top 3 in runs scored. The 8/9 hope of McD/ Sweeny and Iglesias is looking Lugoesque, and when Shppach catches the bottom 3rd becomes a black hole
     
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    Somewhere.....

    Edgar Renteria is waiting for the phone to ring
     
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    In Response to Re: INGLESAIS WILL BE THE OPENING DAY SHORTSTOP, AND THE PITCHING STAFF WILL BE....:
    [QUOTE]Do any of you remember Mark Belanger? He couldn't hit either but played on many good Baltimore teams that won. But could he play defence.
    Posted by practial[/QUOTE]  A HECK OF A GLOVE FOR SURE.... EARL WEAVER HELPED HIS PITCHING STAFF BIG TIME WITH THAT GLOVE !!!  WE SHOULD HAVE ENOUGH BATS IN THE LINEUP TO CARRY IGGY'S GLOVE !!!
     
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    [QUOTE]Do any of you remember Mark Belanger? He couldn't hit either but played on many good Baltimore teams that won. But could he play defence.
    Posted by practial[/QUOTE]

    I was thinking the very same thing. "The Blade" was one of the reasons the Orioles had such great pitching back then. A career .228 hitter who played on teams that had the offense to carry his weak bat, in order to utilize his glove. This sox team should have the offense to carry iggy's bat, and the pitchers could sure use the help he will provide. He still might turn out to be a half decent hitter.
     
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    Why is this so complicated?  You give the kid an extended shot.  If he struggles big time after a few months then you need to figure something out and send him down.  Remember the panic over Salty last year...This is a year when you need to see what you have from him, Lavarnway, and, maybe, Middlebrooks.
     
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    In Response to Re: INGLESAIS WILL BE THE OPENING DAY SHORTSTOP, AND THE PITCHING STAFF WILL BE....:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: INGLESAIS WILL BE THE OPENING DAY SHORTSTOP, AND THE PITCHING STAFF WILL BE.... : Just in case you come back and want to discuss it, with all due respect, you strike me as someone that isn't too bright.  Let me know if you'd like me to explain it to you.
    Posted by Joebreidey[/QUOTE]

    The problem some foresee is Iggy batting ninth at .200 and a weak hitting catcher maybe hitting in front creating a hole in another wise potent line up.  
     
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    In response to "Re: INGLESAIS WILL BE THE OPENING DAY SHORTSTOP, AND THE PITCHING STAFF WILL BE....": [QUOTE]Do any of you remember Mark Belanger? He couldn't hit either but played on many good Baltimore teams that won. But could he play defence. Posted by practial[/QUOTE] Have you actually seen Iglesias you know, play? He is nothing like Belanger. Iglesias will make the spectacular play weekly, but most of his errors are on the routine plays, and his arm is above average ( no where near Andrus however) but often times erratic. At 22, Iglesias baseball IQ is still in its infancy, leading to base running as well as defensive lapses. To my recollection of the 68 and 69 Oriole teams, Iglesias is the opposite of Belanger
     
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    You need to weigh Iglesias versus your other options.....Nick Punto is a lifetime  .249 hitter with zero power....is glove is good but not like Iglesias. How is Iglesias hitting .225 not a better option than that.  There have been plenty of examples in Baseball where teams have played Shortstops with weak bats for their excellent defense and many of these guys have learned to hit better at the ML level. If we were talking about Iglesias sitting on the bench in Boston vs getting AB's at pawtucket, then of course his hitting would develop better at Pawtucket, but if he is getting AB's and playing every day, the effect on his hitting will be better served in Boston, because he will be learning to hit ML caliber pitchers...his spending a year in Pawtucket and hitting .280 will mean nothing once he comes up anyway...he will still be in a situation of having to learn to hit at the ML level. On a team where out pitching is precarious right now, any help we can give them defensively would be a huge asset.
     
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    last year he looked like an a.l. pitcher who hadnt had an ab in 15 years at the plate. never seen anyone that overmatched
     
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    [QUOTE]You need to weigh Iglesias versus your other options.....Nick Punto is a lifetime  .249 hitter with zero power....is glove is good but not like Iglesias. How is Iglesias hitting .225 not a better option than that.  There have been plenty of examples in Baseball where teams have played Shortstops with weak bats for their excellent defense and many of these guys have learned to hit better at the ML level. If we were talking about Iglesias sitting on the bench in Boston vs getting AB's at pawtucket, then of course his hitting would develop better at Pawtucket, but if he is getting AB's and playing every day, the effect on his hitting will be better served in Boston, because he will be learning to hit ML caliber pitchers...his spending a year in Pawtucket and hitting .280 will mean nothing once he comes up anyway...he will still be in a situation of having to learn to hit at the ML level. On a team where out pitching is precarious right now, any help we can give them defensively would be a huge asset.
    Posted by tomnev[/QUOTE]
    Sensibly stated.

     
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    [QUOTE]You need to weigh Iglesias versus your other options.....Nick Punto is a lifetime  .249 hitter with zero power....is glove is good but not like Iglesias. How is Iglesias hitting .225 not a better option than that.  There have been plenty of examples in Baseball where teams have played Shortstops with weak bats for their excellent defense and many of these guys have learned to hit better at the ML level. If we were talking about Iglesias sitting on the bench in Boston vs getting AB's at pawtucket, then of course his hitting would develop better at Pawtucket, but if he is getting AB's and playing every day, the effect on his hitting will be better served in Boston, because he will be learning to hit ML caliber pitchers...his spending a year in Pawtucket and hitting .280 will mean nothing once he comes up anyway...he will still be in a situation of having to learn to hit at the ML level. On a team where out pitching is precarious right now, any help we can give them defensively would be a huge asset.
    Posted by tomnev[/QUOTE]  B I N G O !!!!!  GREAT POST !!
     
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    [QUOTE]In response to "Re: INGLESAIS WILL BE THE OPENING DAY SHORTSTOP, AND THE PITCHING STAFF WILL BE....": Have you actually seen Iglesias you know, play? He is nothing like Belanger. Iglesias will make the spectacular play weekly, but most of his errors are on the routine plays, and his arm is above average ( no where near Andrus however) but often times erratic. At 22, Iglesias baseball IQ is still in its infancy, leading to base running as well as defensive lapses. To my recollection of the 68 and 69 Oriole teams, Iglesias is the opposite of Belanger
    Posted by rkarp[/QUOTE]
    Perhaps we should wait and allow Valentine to judge the young man.

     
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    [QUOTE]You need to weigh Iglesias versus your other options.....Nick Punto is a lifetime  .249 hitter with zero power....is glove is good but not like Iglesias. How is Iglesias hitting .225 not a better option than that.  There have been plenty of examples in Baseball where teams have played Shortstops with weak bats for their excellent defense and many of these guys have learned to hit better at the ML level. If we were talking about Iglesias sitting on the bench in Boston vs getting AB's at pawtucket, then of course his hitting would develop better at Pawtucket, but if he is getting AB's and playing every day, the effect on his hitting will be better served in Boston, because he will be learning to hit ML caliber pitchers...his spending a year in Pawtucket and hitting .280 will mean nothing once he comes up anyway...he will still be in a situation of having to learn to hit at the ML level. On a team where out pitching is precarious right now, any help we can give them defensively would be a huge asset.
    Posted by tomnev[/QUOTE]

    YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
    GREAT!

    IGLESIAS IS OUR NEW SS ! HE IS THE BEST OPTION ! 



     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: INGLESAIS WILL BE THE OPENING DAY SHORTSTOP, AND THE PITCHING STAFF WILL BE.... : Perhaps we should wait and allow Valentine to judge the young man.
    Posted by expitch[/QUOTE]

    BobbyV was coach of the Mets from 96-2002, the same time period of  Rey Ordonez who played short stop from 96-2002 with Mets...was this a coincidence or BobbyV, at times reluctantly in the Mets lineup...so it appears Inglesais by Allstar break will be in the bigs or even earlier...
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: INGLESAIS WILL BE THE OPENING DAY SHORTSTOP, AND THE PITCHING STAFF WILL BE.... : I'd like to think Sox fans are smart enough to recognize what he is doing on defense and cut him a little slack on offense. The media is another story.
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]

    If we're winning, he may get some slack.  If we start out like we did last year, and Iglesias leaves a dozen runners stranded in the first week, he'd be crucified.
     

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