Is Josh Beckett currently the AL's best starting pitcher?

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    Is Josh Beckett currently the AL's best starting pitcher?

    His numbers to this juncture are very impressive:

    4-1  1.69 ERA  0.95 WHIP(Pedroesque)  .186 BAA  58 K's in 64 IP and only 20 BB nearly a 3/1 K/BB ratio.  He is clearly healthy once again (I don't think he fully recovered from his amazing '07 postseason until now) and has not been fully in game shape for 3 years.  The results speak for themselves.  Tito's sticking him in the 4 slot at the start of the season was also a brilliant motivator to his ego, it has worked very well!
     
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    He's been crazy good so far. 
     
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    Josh Beckett is the highest-rated Red Sox starter in the WAR* rankings:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=sta&lg=al&qual=y&type=8&season=2011&month=0&season1=2011&ind=0

    * Wins Above Replacement as reported at FanGraphs
     
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    In Response to Re: Is Josh Beckett currently the AL's best starting pitcher?:
    [QUOTE]Josh Beckett is the highest-rated Red Sox starter in the WAR* rankings: http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=sta&lg=al&qual=y&type=8&season=2011&month=0&season1=2011&ind=0 * Wins Above Replacement as reported at FanGraphs
    Posted by hill55[/QUOTE]


    No surprise really.
     
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    Here is May's WAR rankings.  Beckett is right under King Felix and Buchholz is in the mix as well.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=sta&lg=al&qual=y&type=8&season=2011&month=5&season1=2011&ind=0
     
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    Question: Is Buchholz just being lucky again this year?
     
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    Re: Is Josh Beckett currently the AL's best starting pitcher?

    Compare these season stats:

    Starter A
    10 GS, 4-1 WL, 64.0 IP, 41 H, 20 BB, 58 K, 1.69 ERA, 0.95 WHIP, .186 BAA

    Starter B
    9 GS, 6-2 WL, 58.1 IP, 41 H, 14 BB, 61 K, 2.16 ERA, 0.94 WHIP, .194 BAA

    Starter A is Josh Beckett and Starter B is Seattle righthander Michael Pineda, who is nearly nine years younger than Beckett. We can safely say each is having a stellar year so far.
     
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    [QUOTE]Compare these season stats: Starter A 10 GS, 4-1 WL, 64.0 IP, 41 H, 20 BB, 58 K, 1.69 ERA, 0.95 WHIP, .186 BAA Starter B 9 GS, 6-2 WL, 58.1 IP, 41 H, 14 BB, 61 K, 2.16 ERA, 0.94 WHIP, .194 BAA Starter A is Josh Beckett and Starter B is Seattle righthander Michael Pineda, who is nearly nine years younger than Beckett. We can safely say each is having a stellar year so far.
    Posted by hill55[/QUOTE]

    Agreed.
     
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    [QUOTE]Compare these season stats: Starter A 10 GS, 4-1 WL, 64.0 IP, 41 H, 20 BB, 58 K, 1.69 ERA, 0.95 WHIP, .186 BAA Starter B 9 GS, 6-2 WL, 58.1 IP, 41 H, 14 BB, 61 K, 2.16 ERA, 0.94 WHIP, .194 BAA Starter A is Josh Beckett and Starter B is Seattle righthander Michael Pineda, who is nearly nine years younger than Beckett. We can safely say each is having a stellar year so far.
    Posted by hill55[/QUOTE]

    Would you trade them straight up today?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Is Josh Beckett currently the AL's best starting pitcher? : Would you trade them straight up today?
    Posted by jimdavis[/QUOTE]

    No but would you trade Beckett for Verlander straight up?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Is Josh Beckett currently the AL's best starting pitcher? : No but would you trade Beckett for Verlander straight up?
    Posted by Alibiike[/QUOTE]

    That would be tempting.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Is Josh Beckett currently the AL's best starting pitcher? : Would you trade them straight up today?
    Posted by jimdavis[/QUOTE]
    Michael Pineda, who turned 22 in January, currently earns the league minimum and remains under his team's control through the 2016 season. Josh Beckett remains under his team's control through the 2014 season at a cost of about $58 million.

    No way the Seattle Mariners trade Michael Pineda straight up for 31-year-old Josh Beckett. With his age and contract, the market for Beckett would be limited despite his strong start this year.
     
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    And here I thought he was another of Theo's blunders. 

    -Daf. 
     
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    In Response to Re: Is Josh Beckett currently the AL's best starting pitcher?:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Is Josh Beckett currently the AL's best starting pitcher? : Michael Pineda, who turned 22 in January, currently earns the league minimum and remains under his team's control through the 2016 season. Josh Beckett remains under his team's control through the 2014 season at a cost of about $58 million. No way the Seattle Mariners trade Michael Pineda straight up for 31-year-old Josh Beckett. With his age and contract, the market for Beckett would be limited despite his strong start this year.
    Posted by hill55[/QUOTE]
    Pretty sure the point of that post was "Sure same stats but who would you rather have?"
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Is Josh Beckett currently the AL's best starting pitcher? : Pretty sure the point of that post was "Sure same stats but who would you rather have?"
    Posted by NUSoxFan[/QUOTE]

    I think I'd rather have a proven postseason winner.
     
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    In Response to Re: Is Josh Beckett currently the AL's best starting pitcher?:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Is Josh Beckett currently the AL's best starting pitcher? : Michael Pineda, who turned 22 in January, currently earns the league minimum and remains under his team's control through the 2016 season. Josh Beckett remains under his team's control through the 2014 season at a cost of about $58 million. No way the Seattle Mariners trade Michael Pineda straight up for 31-year-old Josh Beckett. With his age and contract, the market for Beckett would be limited despite his strong start this year.
    Posted by hill55[/QUOTE]

    You are right but on the flipside, many would not make the deal in the other direction.  Imagine the bashfest if that deal was made and Pineda flamed out because of no track record, etc.  You would never hear the end of it.  And that's the point all along.  Smart people get paid alot of money to make moves.  Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.  Sometimes no move is the best move.  But the fact is the Sox leaders are bold and make decisions they believe will help the team now and in the long run.  We sit back with the benefit of hindsight and evaluate the success or failure of each move.  Where we sit is pretty comfortable by comparison.
     
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    Re: Is Josh Beckett currently the AL's best starting pitcher?

    yes
     
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    Funny, but in April a lot of people, with Tony Massarotti leading the charge, were convinced that Beckett was not the same pitcher and that he would need to reinvent himself as a control pitcher since his fastball was gone.  Now it's almost June and Beckett is among the AL if not MLB's top starters.  Nice to see him live up to his contract extension.  I'm betting it won't be long (next year?) before people are calling him fat, overpaid and overrated again.  On-and-off again Josh is an enigma, but when he's on, I'd take him over just about anybody.

    Look at what people are saying about Bard now.  He's overrated, he doesn't have the makeup to be a closer, his fastball is hittable, etc.  Give the kid a chance to work out of his funk before dumping on him.  Surprise surprise, Tony Mazz is leading the Bard stinks bandwagon right now.     
     
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    In Response to Re: Is Josh Beckett currently the AL's best starting pitcher?:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Is Josh Beckett currently the AL's best starting pitcher? : I think I'd rather have a proven postseason winner.
    Posted by niz-58[/QUOTE]
    Not many owners would trade Felix Hernandez, who has never appeared in the postseason, straight up for a proven postseason winner* or Josh Beckett.

    * by the way, Josh Beckett has a 7.71 ERA over his last four postseason starts
     
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    The mini-Lugo-treatment has made a difference in getting the embarrassing fat Beckett bust of 2010 earning his money for a change. I hope it lasts.
     
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    He's definitely top 3 right now, that's for sure. I'm glad that all of the haters of "BeckHitt's" extension are nowhere to be found. The Josh Beckett of old is back and it's going to do wonders for the Sox this year.
     
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    Re: Is Josh Beckett currently the AL's best starting pitcher?

    why debate silliness like would you trade Verlander/King Felix for Beckett....just be grateful our top dog, our spirit leader (no offense to Pedey) is in awesome form...he has been amazing against the best teams in the AL

    i never doubted his heart but in all fairness to Tony Mazz, he did look like a pitcher on a mid-career decline
     
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    Top 5 in the AL Right now sounds about right...
     
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    [QUOTE]Top 5 in the AL Right now sounds about right...
    Posted by andrewmitch[/QUOTE]

    Last year you said no GM in the major leagues would want him.  To address the OP if he kept up this pace all year then maybe but you cant say anyone is "currently" the best.  It's a long season.  whoever is currently the best is the guy that had the last great start.

     
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    Re: Is Josh Beckett currently the AL's best starting pitcher?

    Beckett is the man. And, yes, he could be the best starting pitcher. I'm just glad he's on the Red Sox. His cockiness works for him, and definitely gives him an edge. I love watching him pitch.
     

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