Re: Jeter re-signed....$12MM
posted at 11/4/2013 11:23 AM EST
In response to RedSoxKimmi's comment:
In response to nhsteven's comment:
Compelling stuff; and while Jeter has postage stamp range, here's something even more compelling; let me know when Lester wins 5 GGs, as voted by his peers and coaches.
And before you poo-poo this award; the GG is a fraud; that is, unless a RS wins it.
Also, comparisons were made here between Jeter, Drew, and Nomar, and I wasn't the one that started it.
Steven, the GG Awards are a joke. Sometimes they get it right, and they have been doing better recently, but they are still a joke, even when the Red Sox win them.
They happen to be right about Pedroia and Victorino this year, but a few years back when they had Youkilis as one of their finalists at third base, that was a joke.
If someone tells me that someone won a GG, I put no stock into that at all. I will look up the stats myself.
If someone tells me that someone won a Fielding Bible Award, I know we have a good fielder without having to look at any stats.
If you want to know who the best defenders are from year to year, look at the Fielding Bible winners.
Thanks for the link; good stuff. However, the GG is an indicator, albeit a flawed one; to wit; Brooks Robinson won 16 consecutive. In Jeter's case, it was a tribute to his flawless intangibles, sure hands, and great arm; (these are things that do not register on the pointillistic approach taken by sabermetrics ) that is, except these intangibles; he needs to admit he can't play it at this point (that's assuming he can play at all), and when ARod came over in 2004, he should have moved to 3B. Oh, and IMO he should have taken a big incentive laden discount for 2014. 12 Mil doesn't buy what it used to, i.e a 190 BA, lousy defense, and about 10 Games.