Re: Justin Upton
posted at 4/15/2013 11:17 AM EDT
In response to softlaw2's comment:
Too bad he wanted NOTHING to do with Boston
False, he's professional baseball player and plays for living. His no trade clause was changed each year to reflect the big market teams that would be most likely to try and acquire him in a trade. It's leverage for a big extesnion. If the Red Sox had converted Ellsbury and his draft compensation, with any 3 or 4 players except Bradley, Bogearts and Barnes, they would have been able to aquire the rights to offer J. Upton a 100 million dollar extension that pays him until he's 33 years old. He would have accepted it and waived the no-trade cluase. It happens frequently.
The blowhards on here, including southpaux, claimed that J. Upton was overrated. In reality, most Red Sox fans did not want to use Ellsbury and the draft compesnation as currency to close this deal.
If Cherry wanted him, he could have trumped the Bravos and made the extension offer to close the daal. Instead, it's going to be Ellsbury for one final season and Shane for 3 more years.
J. Upton would have been a perfect fit in Fenway and the AL East. His career numbers would have exploded even more than they have in Atalanta.
Now that it's over, managment should convert Bogaerts to 3B, move Middlebrooks to 3rd for 2014, and put an end to this silly slugging SS nonsense. Bradley should take over CF for 2014, and Shane is here to stay. Unless Brentz or other slugging RH OF'er emerges, another year of Nava and Gomes will be the way to go.
If only any facts supported this.
If Upton's NTC wa a negotating ploy, he would have had the Yankees on his list. The omission of the largest market and biggest spender is much too big of an oversite for his agent to have made. Also, he would have negotiated with Seattle, as opposed to flat out turning them down.
If Seattle wanted to acquire the draft pick, they would not have extended Prado so quickly. The draft pick compensation for Prado was equal to the compensation for Ellsbury - one sandwich pick.
Arizona made a lot of dumb moves this offseason, but they did not give Upton away for nothing, and the value of that package, while beatable, was not farm scraps. The cetenrpiece was Randall Delgado, and the Boston equivalent was Allen Webster. They also were very voal about acquiring a 3B, and all Boston had to offer was Will Middlebrooks. Nick Ahmed is the slightly lesser version of Deven Marrero. and Brain Drury is the only worthless piece.
So all the Sox needed to do was pony up Webster, Middlebrooks, Marrero and a token farm scrap, and they might have been able to acquire Upton. Assuming Upton was willing to negotiate at all, and Boston was willing to exnted him an 8-year $160mill contract. Unless Upton begs his agent to get get him an offer that pays slightly more barely more AAV annually than is received by his inferior older brother, and ends coinciding with his peak years, oh, and the raise the first 2 years must be minimal, and the remaining years are to be far below wahat comparable outfielders are receving.