Ken Rosenthal:The Sox are “all over” Bedard

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    Ken Rosenthal:The Sox are “all over” Bedard

    by Ken Rosenthal/FoxSports
    The Seattle Mariners had two scouts watching the Boston Red Sox’s Triple-A affiliate on Wednesday night and one watching the Sox’s Double-A club, according to major league sources.

    The extent of trade discussions between the teams is not known, but several Mariners pitchers are drawing significant interest from multiple clubs. Right-hander Doug Fister, in particular, is a target of virtually every team seeking rotation help, sources said.

    However, Boston's primary focus could be left-hander Erik Bedard, who has not pitched since June 27 because of a strained left knee but will come off the disabled list Friday night to pitch against the Tampa Bay Rays. The Sox are “all over” Bedard, one source said, and both the Sox and New York Yankees are expected to scout Bedard on Friday night.

    Mariners closer Brandon League would be another possibility, though the Red Sox are loathe to give up prospects for relievers after their experience with Eric Gagne in 2007. Mariners president Chuck Armstrong told FOXSports.com earlier this week that it’s unlikely League will be traded.

     
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    From another perspective:

    http://forums.seattletimes.nwsource.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=179021&sid=cd2140769b6f08d2ae6dd3628e4b217a
     
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    i think the sox supposed interest in bedard is a smoke screen and they may be leaking that info to drive the price down on ubaldo jimenez who they really want. Think about it, the rockies basically have 3 teams interested in ubaldo. The yankees are not will to give up the players the rockies want and will probably get someone like hiroki kuroda. The reds have recently had 2nd thoughts about making a major trade for someone like ubaldo or shields(who they prefer) because they are barely in playoff contention. The red sox who have been there from the beginning are still there and are intetersed no doubt. Now word comes out that the sox are all over bedard, so now the rox gm is put in a position where he might lose the red sox too so his only option if he really wants to trade ubaldo which from the sounds of things he does, is to drop his price so the sox dont go the other way a try to get bedard. If you look beyond the surface, bedard makes little sense for the sox. Neither do guys like kuroda, harden, harang, guthrie, etc. Ubaldo is the only guy that makes sense. And i think what makes him so attractive to theo and co is that he is an ace cailber pitcher who is young(27 yrs old) and signed for really cheap. Most pitchers of ubaldos caliber make way way more than he does. It also just so happens that when ubaldos contract is up, so is john lackeys. Ubaldo Jimenez makes sense for many reasons. 
     
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     The reds have recently had 2nd thoughts about making a major trade for someone like ubaldo or shields(who they prefer) because they are barely in playoff contention

    A deal for Shields would be just as much about the future as the here and now. Shields is signed through 2014 with 2 years at friendly team option prices for a pitcher of his status

    I doubt the Rays would trade Shields to us, but maybe we can get him from the Reds after the deal.
     
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    i cant believe we now are desperate for a starter....discouraging
     
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    by Gordon Edes/ESPN Boston

    BOSTON -- With Boston Red Sox concerns mounting over pitcher Clay Buchholz, despite manager Terry Francona's statements to the contrary, the team's search for pitching help has expanded to include a left-hander who hasn't pitched in a month because of a sprained left knee.

    And given what the Colorado Rockies want for right-hander Ubaldo Jimenez, Seattle left-hander Erik Bedard may be the most likely candidate to be acquired by Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein, according to a major league source familiar with talks between the Mariners and Red Sox.

    Friday night in Seattle, Bedard is scheduled to pitch against the Tampa Bay Rays, his first start since June 27, when he went seven innings against the Atlanta Braves, allowing four hits and three runs. The next day, Bedard went on the disabled list because of his injured knee.
    If the Sox are satisfied that Bedard is healthy, they are expected to be aggressive in attempting to strike a deal for the lefty, who is well acquainted with the American League East, having pitched five seasons for the Baltimore Orioles.

    Bedard was considered one of the top young left-handers in the league until he injured his left shoulder and underwent surgery in both 2008 and '09, missing all of the 2010 season.

    The 31-year-old Bedard returned this season, made 15 starts for the Mariners, and pitched well. His record was just 4-6, but he had a 3.00 ERA with 85 strikeouts and 26 walks in 90 innings. In his next-to-last start before going on the DL, against Washington, Bedard struck out 10 while allowing just two runs, both unearned, in six innings.

    With Bedard eligible for free agency after the season, and because of the numerous health issues he has had, Bedard should be available for a reasonable price, although as is the case with the other starting pitchers the Sox are pursuing -- Jimenez and Hiroki Kuroda of the Dodgers -- other AL contenders are in the mix, including the Yankees.

    The source, asked to handicap which starter the Sox were most likely to acquire, listed Bedard first, followed by Kuroda and Jimenez.

    Boston's interest in Bedard was first reported by FoxSports.com.

    Meanwhile, as of Thursday afternoon, the Red Sox had not made a call on veteran utilityman Bill Hall, who was designated for assignment by the San Francisco Giants to make room for newly acquired Carlos Beltran. Hall hit 18 home runs for the Sox and played seven different positions (including pitcher) last season, parlaying that success into a nice free-agent deal with Houston, but he has struggled in 2011, batting just .211 with two home runs and 14 RBIs.

    The Giants had acquired Hall from the Astros after an injury to regular second baseman Freddy Sanchez, but Hall went on the DL with a spike wound in his left leg and appeared in just 16 games for the Giants.

     
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    From columnist Geoff Baker of the Seattle Times:

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/marinersblog/2015754730_get_set_for_busy_weekend_on_th.html
     
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    Not crazy about Bedard, hurt too much !!!
     
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    THE SOX ARE IN A LOT MORE TROUBLE THAN THE FANS THINK.
    IF BUCHHOLZ DOES NOT COME BACK THIS SEASON, AND WE
    ARE PRACTICALLY IN AUGUST, THEN THEY HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE
    BUT TO GIVE UP REDDICK AND POSSIBLY DOUBRONT OR
    SOME HIGH AAA TALENT FOR JIMENEZ. IT'S PRETTY EVIDENT
    THAT LACKEY OF 2011 IS NOT THE PITCHER OF THE MID 2000'S.
    WAKE CAN'T BE DEPENDED UPON AGAINST THE BETTER CLUBS
    AT HIS AGE, AND SO WE ARE LEFT WITH BECKETT AND LESTER
    AS OUR TWO FRONTLINE GUYS. NOT ENUF...JUST NOT ENUF !!!
    OUR RELIEF IS GOOD, BUT WAKE AND LACKEY PUT A LOT OF
    STRAIN ON THE BULLPEN. BOTH GIVE UP A LOTTA RUNS AND
    ARE USUALLY PULLED. THEY ONLY WAY WAKE STAYED LAST
    TIME WAS BECAUSE IT WAS A LAUGHER, AND HE TIRED AND
    THEY SCORED 3 OR 4. LUCKY WE HAD 11 !
     
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    [QUOTE]Not crazy about Bedard, hurt too much !!!
    Posted by AL34[/QUOTE]

    Depends on what they give up.  You are not asking him or whoever they get to be healthy for a full season, only now through Veteran's Day (or whenever the series ends this year).
     
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    [QUOTE]i cant believe we now are desperate for a starter....discouraging
    Posted by georom4[/QUOTE]

    No kidding in April who woulda thunk the sox  need would be for another starting pitcher?
     
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    Bedard's injury history is a gamble, but that is also why his cost would be lower.

    I'm glad Theo didn't listen to the silly clown who this March, April, May, June, and July wanted to lessen our choices for 6th starter by cutting the guy who has led his team to a 9-4 record in his starts.
     
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    [QUOTE]i think the sox supposed interest in bedard is a smoke screen and they may be leaking that info to drive the price down on ubaldo jimenez who they really want. Think about it, the rockies basically have 3 teams interested in ubaldo. The yankees are not will to give up the players the rockies want and will probably get someone like hiroki kuroda. The reds have recently had 2nd thoughts about making a major trade for someone like ubaldo or shields(who they prefer) because they are barely in playoff contention. The red sox who have been there from the beginning are still there and are intetersed no doubt. Now word comes out that the sox are all over bedard, so now the rox gm is put in a position where he might lose the red sox too so his only option if he really wants to trade ubaldo which from the sounds of things he does, is to drop his price so the sox dont go the other way a try to get bedard. If you look beyond the surface, bedard makes little sense for the sox. Neither do guys like kuroda, harden, harang, guthrie, etc. Ubaldo is the only guy that makes sense. And i think what makes him so attractive to theo and co is that he is an ace cailber pitcher who is young(27 yrs old) and signed for really cheap. Most pitchers of ubaldos caliber make way way more than he does. It also just so happens that when ubaldos contract is up, so is john lackeys. Ubaldo Jimenez makes sense for many reasons. 
    Posted by redsoxpride34[/QUOTE]
    I would LOVE for the Sox to get Jimenez, they will wind up overpaying and that guy will get rocked in the AL particularly in the AL East.
     
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    [QUOTE]by Ken Rosenthal/FoxSports The Seattle Mariners had two scouts watching the Boston Red Sox’s Triple-A affiliate on Wednesday night and one watching the Sox’s Double-A club, according to major league sources. The extent of trade discussions between the teams is not known, but several Mariners pitchers are drawing significant interest from multiple clubs. Right-hander Doug Fister, in particular, is a target of virtually every team seeking rotation help, sources said. However, Boston's primary focus could be left-hander Erik Bedard, who has not pitched since June 27 because of a strained left knee but will come off the disabled list Friday night to pitch against the Tampa Bay Rays. The Sox are “all over” Bedard, one source said, and both the Sox and New York Yankees are expected to scout Bedard on Friday night. Mariners closer Brandon League would be another possibility, though the Red Sox are loathe to give up prospects for relievers after their experience with Eric Gagne in 2007. Mariners president Chuck Armstrong told FOXSports.com earlier this week that it’s unlikely League will be traded.
    Posted by -EdithBunker-[/QUOTE]

    The Sox are most likely looking at every available starter.  Theo is great at not letting the cat out of the bag until time is right.  Bedard pitches tommorow night.  Harden also pitched great today against the Rays but the AS's pen killed his outing.
     
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    Re: Ken Rosenthal:The Sox are “all over” Bedard

    I wonder if its a smoke screen for Felix Hernandez and not Bedard, Theo nver shows his cards on anyone trade time.
     
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    Re: Ken Rosenthal:The Sox are “all over” Bedard

    Wake needs a break.
    Miller needs an unprobable turn around.

    We could use a guy like a healthy Bedard and hope he stays healthy. 

    Amazing how the silly clown thought we wouldn't need a 6th starter and thought our "kids being held back" or even "Wally" would do better than 9-4.
     
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    [QUOTE]I wonder if its a smoke screen for Felix Hernandez and not Bedard, Theo nver shows his cards on anyone trade time.
    Posted by AL34[/QUOTE]

    Neither does anyone else; except really bad poker players.
     
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    Theo never shows his cards on anyone trade time.                     



























     
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    Re: Ken Rosenthal:The Sox are “all over” Bedard

    If Seattle wants to move Bedard, as they clearly should, they are in the cat bird's seat on that one. The Sox are between a rock and a hard place and if Bedard is healthy, he can produce.

    For us or for the Yanks.

    And isn't it interesting that the above report said that Seattle sent 2 scouts to Pawtucket and only one to Portland. Who do we have in Pawtucket who may be of interest to them? Lavarnway and Iglesias. Wieland is not pitching Friday or Doubront as I understand it.

    I had read that Seattle sent 2 scouts to AA Portland and only 1 to AAA Pawtucket. That would make more sense to me. We have a lot of good prospects at Portland, such as Middlebrooks, Chiang, Hassan, Wilson, Fife, Miller, Federowicz. It could take one guy from AAA ball and one from AA ball but I would think it would simply be one blue chip guy mainly, Iglesias, Middlebrooks or Lavarnway. Maybe just one of the top 3 alone would do it. Those 3 guys are top notch prospects, all probable mlb players and possible stars. And Seattle has needs at all 3 slots.

    We could really use Bedard. The guy has consistently pitched well for 3-4 years now whenever he is on the field. He could be huge for us and a difference maker in the play offs, if we get there.

    But at the cost of Lavarnway? Or Iglesias? Or Middlebrooks? that is pretty costly for about 1/3 a year rental of an injury prone player, albeit a really good one. think about this though, we really stink after our first 2 starters ( if Buchholz is down for the year ) and if Bedard is healthy that could change the playoff dynamic completely this year. I sense that Theo is pretty desperate for starting pitching this year and it could well happen IMO.
     
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    Re: Ken Rosenthal:The Sox are “all over” Bedard

    The most logical trade target for Seattle would be Lavarnway. I would bet a lot of cash that Lavarnway starts at catcher tomorrow when the scouts are there ( or the Scout if the report I read on mlb trade rumors is correct ).

    Big question. Would that trade be worth it? Short term rental of a guy who might well make the difference in us winning the championships this year for a guy who might be the best bat we have produced since Hanley, Pedroia and Ellsbury.
     

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