Re: Let us ADMIT it, our GM really is not all that good.....
posted at 5/20/2011 12:49 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Let us ADMIT it, our GM really is not all that good.....
[QUOTE]I've said it before (*cough* responding to Showalter *cough*) and I'll say it again, you can't fairly criticize a GM who runs a high-revenue team for having an imperfect record with FAs. It's a known fact that free agency is an ineffecient way to accumulate talent, but teams that wish to compete EVERY year (which is what high-revenue team owners demand from their GMs) need to sign imperfect players at times to fill holes to ensure they have high playoff chances on an annual basis. When the Sox won it all in 2004, do you think Theo really wanted to sign guys like Wells and Renteria? He had a veteran laden, somewhat overpriced team that (thanks to players it was losing to free agency) had a lot of holes and NO minor league talent to speak of. If the Sox were a low or mid revenue franchise, Theo would have bitten the bullet for a couple of years, used value signings to tide the major league team over, and set about rebuilding the minor league system. However, because ownership demanded a shot at a repeat, he signed a number of overpriced veterans (while being smart enough to let his own FAs go...without the draft pick compensation, it would have taken far longer to rebuild the minor league system, as the Yankees have learned the hard way), many of whom proved to not be worth the money. Such is the price of aiming for annual playoff appearances. People like to give the Rays credit for "developing" a lot of their "homegrown" players, but keep in mind that a lot of their talent comes from high first round picks that successful teams never had a shot at. Would Boston ever allow the Red Sox to go through 5+ years of last place finishes in order to turn into a completely "homegrown" team? And do you seriously think the Rays deserve credit for "developing" someone like Evan Longoria (a virtual sure thing who would have been successful for any franchise)? The current Ray ownership DOES deserve credit, not for the high draft pick players, but for how well they've filled in the rest of their roster will savvy signings. Signings that the Boston media would have a field day with (calling it things like a "bridge year"). As for whether Theo deserves credit as a quality GM, to sum up his success with the Nomar trade is the height of stupidity or bias. He took a franchise that had been in "win now" mode for a decade (leaving a shallow minor league system and a major league team of aging players, the worst type of assests for a GM), made the right moves over two years to make it a legitimate championship contender (and winner), and once he gave Boston the championship is yearned for he had the balls to let a number of popular players walk because he knew they would be overpaid and because he needed the draft pick compensation. Within THREE years, the team was full of high upside, cost controlled young players who either filled in the major league roster (Pedroia, Ellsbury, Bard, Buchholz, etc) or were used to acquire key pieces like Josh Beckett, AND that led to another championship! Once Theo succeeded in creating a fantastic minor league system, especially considering Boston's lack of top draft picks due to the team's success, he assured that the team was an annual playoff contender (good minor league system + high payroll = flexibility to fill your roster every year and always compete). When it came to signing players like Lackey and Crawford, perhaps Theo got greedy, or perhaps ownership gave him a new task: build an annual CHAMPIONSHIP contender (not just a playoff contender) in the mold of the Yankees...but with at least 25% less payroll. We can't be sure if Theo really wanted to make those moves or not, but keep in mind that the core success of any GM, Yankee GMs aside, comes from their ability to scout, evaluate, and develop minor league talent, and Theo has shown himself to be quite good at that. His stature as a strong GM is certain. Is he the best? It depends on the criteria, and chances are he is not. Is he top 5, or even top 10? Given how subjective such a question is, there is no sure answer, but he might not even be ranked there. But he's definitely not a BAD GM, or even a mediocre one...which makes this thread pretty silly.
Posted by redsoxu571[/QUOTE]
Excellent response, well thought out and stated. Kudos.