Miller time will soon be in Boston!

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    Miller time will soon be in Boston!

    Last four starts for PawSox's Andrew Miller:

    IP     H    R    HR    BB    SO

    7.0   1     0    0      2      4
    6.0   6     3    0      0      9
    7.0   5     1    0      0      3
    5.1   5     1    1      1     10

    Has Miller finally harnessed his control problems? We'll see, but I'd rather see him in the Red Sox rotation than Lackey, who should get his elbow (shoulder, back, ego, whatever) repaired and come back strong next year.
     
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    and i'd rather see him in the rotation than WAKE.
     
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    he's been very unhittable all year in Pawtucket, but his BB/9 was atrocious, however lately he's done a complete 180 and has done a very good job with his command.

    It just may be miller time
     
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    [QUOTE]Last three starts for PawSox's Andrew Miller: IP     H    R    HR    BB    SO 7.0   1     0    0      2      4 6.0   6     3    0      0      9 7.0   5     1    0      0      3 Has Miller finally harnessed his control problems? We'll see, but I'd rather see him in the Red Sox rotation than Lackey, who should get his elbow (shoulder, back, whatever) repaired and come back strong next year.
    Posted by JoeFoyFan[/QUOTE]

        Lackey is going to get every chance to succeed or fail it is just a reality given his salary, doesn't make it right, but money does impact on playing time so lets hope his last start is a beginning of better things to come, for he could hardly do worse
     
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    ummmmm! didn't wake get the W last night?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Miller time will soon be in Boston! :     Lackey is going to get every chance to succeed or fail it is just a reality given his salary, doesn't make it right, but money does impact on playing time so lets hope his last start is a beginning of better things to come, for he could hardly do worse
    Posted by attic-dan[/QUOTE]

    The cortisone route was also tried with Dice-K. Cortisone can help with symptoms but it won't cure the underlying problem(s).  My guess is that the Sox saw Lackey's elbow problem(s) on the horizon when they signed him, which is why they put the reduced salary clause (if significant elbow problems arise) in his free-agent contract. But I think you are correct: Sox will stick with Lackey until he has a string of horrible starts and admits his elbow is killing him.

    According to CBSSports.com senior writer Evan Brunell, Boston SP John Lackey (3-5) told WEEI on Tuesday that the right elbow strain that landed him on the 15-day disabled list will get worse but is now just normal soreness. “It’s going to get worse eventually,' he said after holding Oakland to three runs in 5 2/3 innings on Sunday in his return from the DL. Lackey received a cortisone shot to help manage the pain, which he said got the swelling down. '(Now) things aren’t hitting against each other. That didn’t feel so good,' Lackey said. 'It’s probably going to be something I have to stay on top of. The guys did a great job of helping me come back, so hopefully we can keep it where it is.”
     
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    One more start like the last 3, and he'll be called up.  He has a June 15th opt out date.  If he struggles with his control in his next start, it will be interesting to see if he's willing to delay his opt out date by a couple weeks.
     
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    miller is a very interesting player.  he was a star in college (and presumably in HS as well) who seems to be progressing like the red sox hoped when they signed him after the 2010 season.

    his control looks to be getting better and he does have some leverage with so many teams probably willing to also gamble on him with after his june 15 opt out date.

    he will be a gamble of some sorts (for the sox) even though he has pitched better in pawtucket in the last few weeks which is probably due to better command and fewer walks.

    i would not be surprised to find someone else (maybe lackey again?) heading toward the disabled list by mid week next week so that miller will get a chance.
     
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    charliedarling, i hope you're right about LACKEY.
     
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    its good to see miller turning it around. apparently buchholz's warm up method has helped him tremendously. if he keeps pitching the way he has recently then he should get the call up and i am sure he will due to his opt out date being right around the corner.
     
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    Send Wakefield to surgery.
     
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    [QUOTE]its good to see miller turning it around. apparently buchholz's warm up method has helped him tremendously. if he keeps pitching the way he has recently then he should get the call up and i am sure he will due to his opt out date being right around the corner.
    Posted by redsoxpride34[/QUOTE]


    What's special about Buchholz's method of warming-up?
     
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    Dang. I thought you meant Rick Miller.



     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Miller time will soon be in Boston! : What's special about Buchholz's method of warming-up?
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    He throws a simulated inning in the bullpen before his starts. This helps him, and now Miller, avoid ugly first inning's, which both of them had struggled with in the past.
     
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    [QUOTE]Last three starts for PawSox's Andrew Miller: IP     H    R    HR    BB    SO 7.0   1     0    0      2      4 6.0   6     3    0      0      9 7.0   5     1    0      0      3 Has Miller finally harnessed his control problems? We'll see, but I'd rather see him in the Red Sox rotation than Lackey, who should get his elbow (shoulder, back, whatever) repaired and come back strong next year.
    Posted by JoeFoyFan[/QUOTE]

    Wow. This is the 2nd pleasant analogy this morning!
     
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        Why all the hate for wake hes still winning andvery affective.
     
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    Wake's almost got a Schilling-esque "shelf".  I wonder what his beer of choice is?  I bet it's a Samuel Jackson!
     
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    Why all the hate for wake hes still winning and very affective.

    The hate brigade, led by softy and his many alteregos, likes to look back to Wake's post back surgery year (2010) as something definitive.

    Currently, Wake is 2nd in winning % on the team and the team is 4-2 in his starts (could have easily been 5-1).

    Wake is 4th in IP.

    Wake is 3rd in WHIP thanks to leading all starters in BB/IP.

    I hope Miller does well when he gets the call. We've already tried 20 pitchers this year. He's got a lot of potential and hopefully has gotten over the BB issues.
     
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    [QUOTE]Miller is an intriguing option for sure. I don't see the Sox calling him up in the short term, inpart becasue I belive he's out of options? So they'd have to place him on waivers if they tried to send him back down and I don't think they want him to pitch out of the pen at least now now...He's being groomed to be a starter, not a lefty specialist...The guys upside is that of a top of the rotation starter so I think the plan is to let him continue to refine his mechanics, keep him stretched out and hopefully have some success with an eye on him competing with Doubront for a spot in the 2012 rotation or as an option if one of our other guys go down (Lackey's elbow?)...
    Posted by Beantowne[/QUOTE]

    While I'm sure that's what they would prefer, Miller has a June 15th opt out date and could simply walk away from the organization and find a team willing to give him playing time (Yankees?).  Additionally, any team who claims him on waivers would owe Miller $3M next season due to a vesting club option in his contract, which may or may not be challenged by the commissioners office should it vest (even though they had to approve it in the first place).

     
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    Sorry Wake but a second power lefty i
    n our rotation would be nice!
     
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    I could see Miller not using his opt-out clause next week and staying in Pawtucket for the time being. I'm sure he could get a major league role somewhere at this point but really his success in Pawtucket is very recent and I doubt he wants to mess with success at this point. Get a few more good starts under his belt, wait until a starter in Boston goes on the DL (it's inevitable) and then he'll get a call up and a legitimate shot at a role in the starting rotation next year.
     
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    Are you sure that if a starter goes on the DL, Tito will use Miller over Aceves?

    I think Miller will want to be in the bigs by the 15th, either here or somewhere else.
     
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    [QUOTE]Dang. I thought you meant Rick Miller.
    Posted by summerof67[/QUOTE]

    Hey, as long as its not the return of ...

     
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    [QUOTE]Are you sure that if a starter goes on the DL, Tito will use Miller over Aceves? I think Miller will want to be in the bigs by the 15th, either here or somewhere else.
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]

    It comes back to the pre-season debate.  Do you want to maximize the number of arms in the system, or the suspected quality of the arms being used?  If you still want to maximize quantity, you go with Miller prior to June 15th.
     
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    I wasn't disagreeing.

    I was strongly for the idea of having as many arms available as possible to choose from this spring. My point is, we may call him up by June 15th, but Tito may not start him over Aceves. He could use him in long relief or in mop-up roles until he proves he can do it in the bigs.
     

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