Re: M.O.P. Dustin Pedroia
posted at 10/13/2012 9:55 PM EDT
In response to georom4's comment:
rbis, games played and homers are about the same for DP & MA
stolen bases are the about the same for DP and PC (even though PC played 60 less games)
PC batting avg is 13 points higher....facts are vstubborn things...and anyone who thinks pedroia is a leader is stupid....he's a passive aggressive child who cant keep his mouth shut...you know those same qualities you despised valentine for....if some team is dumb enough to get us a quality pitcher for pedroia, then we should make th deal...pedro C over a full year at 2b will be just as good
bootlickers never prosper
Give Ciriaco 600 ABs and you will see a rapid decline. In fact, you saw it in Spetember. Many probably wrote it off as a slump, and I might have too had a not predicted it with remarkable accuracy 6 weeks earlier. Ciriaco is an AAAA utility infielder, and if your perception is so good as to notice a decline in Pedroia's stats, you should see how bland Ciriaco is extremely clearly.
PPedroia is no declining. He is as good as ever. Sorry, he did not get along with your anti-Francona man crush, but he i making you look foolish, somethin some of us remember Pedroia doing to you back in 2007 as well.
Really, the problem here is you have painted yourself into a corner and are trying to extricate yuorself from it with compunded foolishness. you did not like Francona - fine. But you tyhought that meant you therefore HAD to like his replacement else you would be labeled as someone who whined about every manager. (You would have. I would have done it to you myself. That's a promise.)
However, the problem really was, the guy they replaced Francona with was worse than Francona. There is no denying it. None. He was. The team did worse, everything was worse. And Francona had a rough ending, but also had 2 titles. Valentine has no titles here and no good times to go with his season of misery.
Don't come back with some stupid rationalization or cherry-picking as to why he was better than Francona. If you are going to play your stupd stat games with Ciriaco/Pedrioa, be prepared to deal with them here. For a manager, 2 stats matter - wins and titles. Valentine was worse than Francona at both. End of argument.
Stop the Valentine Love. He did nothing to deserve it, and it really does not make you look any more intelligent. And if, as well all know, his only real achievement was not being Francona, take heart. The next guy the Sox hire won't be Francona either...