In response to TrotterNixon's comment:
I am not going to budget trade or FA market value for any outside starting pitchers that have a 2 year high market base value. I am going to budget 8 million to make sure I acquire 2 outside starting pitchers to MLB and/or minor league contracts. I will acquire 2 from the following list of FA:
Jeremy Guthrie (offer MLB contract two years and up to base 5)
Jeff Francis (Offer MLB contract one year and base 1M and option year 2 @ base)
Rich Harden (Offer minor league contract 1M guaranteed or player can opt out and become a FA is not added to MLB roster at least one week before the deadling for turning in the opening day roster)
Eric Bedard (Offer minor league contract 1M guaranteed or player can opt out and become a FA is not added to MLB roster at least one week before the deadling for turning in the opening day roster)
2013 projected opening day rotation:
Tazawa (1st half)
or Season injury/bum replacement depth:
3 from Morales or Guthrie or Francis or Bedard or Harden and farm De La Rosa or Webster
Now, I've studied the market and there are no 1st rate starting pitcher FA or trade values, and all the 2nd rate high base FA or trade market pitchers are terrible value probabibilities.
However, it's very important they you provide the specifics on the starting pitchers you are going to budget for trade or FA market value to make sure you acquire him or them. Cherry is incompetent and will react and blunder, so it's important that you provide the details of what you would do to provide the contrast needed to keep you from looking like a blathering idiot who doesn't do anything but throw out names like "I want Felix or if we can't get him lets get Greinke or insert the name of other high market base FA pitchers".
I'm looking forward to reading your specific plans for Red Sox starting pitching, with all the details.
We have a poster on here who poses as an expert but never provides any decision specfic details. He likes to post a lot of spreadsheet type of useless information that is used to either impress or convce you that Wakefield was a good active roster pitcher value in those last years after he was totally washed up but wanted everyone to see him break records associated with poor quality and a lot of many years of quantity stats. I call him the stooge. He won't provide his details, but will speak in generalities and throw out names like Charlie McCarthey et al. He lobbied to bring Wakefield back for 2012 and Beckett back for 2013 and beyond. Every year, he whines that "we need a #1 pitcher or a good #2" but never provides the specific details on who and how much to pay market to acquire.
Anyway, don't be like the stooge, provide your specifics before the biggest part of the baseball season begins of this fall and winter. It's more important than who the musical chair manager is.
So, don't be told to shut up when you complain about starting pitching that Cherry goes with, provide what you are going to do.
Also, my confidence in Cherry as the GM, the most important man on a MLB team, is zero. Please provide the percentage confidence you have in Cherry.
Thank you, and hears to an overdue year of hard work from indolent billion dollar Big Labor payroll.
cc: Board Members
Wow! You actually offered a pitcher more than $1M.
That's the first offer like that in 2+ years.
Once again, however, your offers will not come close to what these guys will end up getting (except for maybe Guthrie at $10M/2), so you might as well just post, "no pitcher signings this year" as your official position.
You often berate posters for wanting to sign or trade for starters from outside the AL East and claim they will fizzle against the east, but if you look at Guthrie, his record has been pretty poor vs the AL East over a significant sample size:
vs NYY: 4-9 5.15
vs TBR: 7-10 4.14
vs TOR: 3-7 3.46
vs BOS 3-8 4.88 (including 6.68 at Fenway with as .999 OPS against)
Guthrie also turns 34 in April...an age you usually call "wheelchair".
That being said, I actually like trying to get Guthrie*(see below), but just thought I'd point out how he seems to go against your previous value criteria.
Other than my specific trade offers to Oakland for Brett Anderson, and assuming it is rejected, I'd offer these FA starters these deals:
1st choice: B. McCarthy $22M/3 (If he looks healthy, I might go to $25M/3 or $30M/4 with IP incentives.)
If yes, I'd then offer S. Marcum $12M/2 (see Guthrie is SM says no).
2nd Choice: A. Sanchez $42M/4 (Yes, it is overpay, but he's worth the gamble.)
If yes, then I'd offer J. Saunders $6M/2
3rd Choice: Sign 3 of McCarthy, Marcum, Guthrie, and Saunders and look to trade Doubront & Morales (along with others) in a deal to get J Upton or some other big RH'd bat.
4th Choice: E. Jackson $30M/3
If yes, then I'd also offer J Guthrie $11M/2 or J Saunders $6M/2.