NOTHING TO REPORT.... HOW HARD ARE THEY TRYING?????

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       THIS RO$TER NEEDS $OME "TRAN$FORMATION", WHAT IS THE HOLD UP ????????
     
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    lol right on time.
     
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    [QUOTE]lol right on time.
    Posted by BurritoT[/QUOTE]AS DAD WOULD SAY....... "SON, I SEE THINGS AS THEY ARE, AND ASK WHY"!!
     
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    The "hold up" is that all decisions revolve around Papi's decision. Once he decides, management will know what they have to spend on fillinf 4-5 slots.

    Many dads tell their sons that patience is a virtue.
     
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    They are not going to make big moves. 

    I suspect, that Valentine thinks he can win with last year's roster.

    They are going to save their $$$ for next winter.
     
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    Obviously the Red Sox do not have many ML almost ready prospects to trade. Wil Middlebrooks is #1, probably Anthony Ranaudo #2 and despite concerns about his hitting talented defensive SS Jose Iglesias #3. I have not included Ryan Kalish or Josh Reddick as each has produced for enough time to be considered major leaguers. Maybe teams will have some interest in Lars Anderson, Felix Doubront or someone else, but as we know it takes 2 sometimes 3 teams minimum to make a deal work. If Big Papi comes back for 1 or a negotiated 1 or 2 seasons, I suspect the Sox might have to trade Kevin Youkilis. Very interesting what happens the next few months and The Red Sox may still have a makeshift lineup at 3B and RF, as re-building the starting rotation and bullpen are key to the 2012 Season. 

    To suggest the team may not be trying very hard is not looking at reality.  What goes on in meetings in Dallas also do not materialize immediately. Moving players around as if they are on a Monopoly Board is not as easy as it once might have seemed.  Evaluating existing Contracts, Arbitration Rules, now the new rules which relate to FA compensation, coordinating with scouts who may have a better idea of what a player(s) might do at the ML level etc. 

    On the other hand, how good will the Red Sox be in 2012.  It was very good for most of 2011, despite a dismal start and the worst finish, arguably in history.  The reality is that down the stretch the team was in just about every game and but for an across the board let down by the pitching staff, it would have been in the postseason.  I suggest that we fans not panic as the Red Sox have been doing a lot more positive under this ownership and are likely to continue doing so.
     
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    they cant spend 300 million every off season, what do you want them to do?
     
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    [QUOTE]they cant spend 300 million every off season, what do you want them to do?
    Posted by fourrings[/QUOTE] "LET ME BE CLEAR",  IM NOT LOOKING FOR FREE AGENTS, QUITE FRANKLY IM LOOKING FOR ADDITION BY SUBTRACTION BY MOVING $OME OF THE HIGH $$$ ENTITLED ONES..... 
     
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    The contracts of Gonzalez, Crawford, Lackey, and Beckett have hamstrung the team as far as payroll is concerned from 2014 and beyond.     In another 2 years, Ellsbury will be a free agent.    What then ?
     
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    [QUOTE]The contracts of Gonzalez, Crawford, Lackey, and Beckett have hamstrung the team as far as payroll is concerned from 2014 and beyond.     In another 2 years, Ellsbury will be a free agent.    What then ?
    Posted by OnDeckCircle[/QUOTE]  BECKETT IS THE MAIN CULPRIT.... THEN , GET CREATIVE AND CHANGE THE "DECK CHAIRS"  !!!!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: NOTHING TO REPORT.... HOW HARD ARE THEY TRYING????? :   BECKETT IS THE MAIN CULPRIT.... THEN , GET CREATIVE AND CHANGE THE "DECK CHAIRS"  !!!!
    Posted by Bill-806[/QUOTE]

    Beckett is going to be just fine.  Valentine is going to help fan the flames of the fire that has been lit under him by Chickengate.  You will be happy to find that, since he is not going anywhere, Beckett is going to have a really good season in 2012.
     
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    [QUOTE]The "hold up" is that all decisions revolve around Papi's decision. Once he decides, management will know what they have to spend on fillinf 4-5 slots. Many dads tell their sons that patience is a virtue.
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]

    Not buying that explanation. They can spend as much or as little as they want, just depends on whether they want to go over the Luxury Tax threshold, and whether Henry wants to open his wallet.
    To say that the structuring of the roster depends solely on a decision from one player is absurd. If that's what Ben is saying, then he is not a very good GM.
     
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    Cherington struck out again in getting a closer.       Between having little to offer in trading chips and John Henry wanting to avoid the luxury tax, it is what it is.


    The Padres found their Heath Bell replacement, acquiring closer Huston Street from the division-rival Rockies for a minor leaguer (others suggest a player to be named later). MLB.com's Thomas Harding tweeted the agreement, while Danny Knobler, Scott Miller, and Buster Olney contributed to the breaking story. Harding says the Padres will pay most of the $8MM guaranteed to Street.
     
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    [QUOTE]They are not going to make big moves.  I suspect, that Valentine thinks he can win with last year's roster. They are going to save their $$$ for next winter.
    Posted by Schumpeters-Ghost[/QUOTE]

    Last years roster is not an option.  Dice and lackey had TJ surgery, paps is gone, wake and tek are spent, and adrian's salary skyrocketed.  Jenks MIGHT bounce back, and we sure think Crawford SHOULD bounce back.  If papi is back the RS FO has to decide to roll the dice and try to play with what they have, or open the wallets and go for it again.  Will a Buerle, Beltran, and Krod/madsen ensure a trip to the postseason....no, but it will sure make for a higher octane season. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: NOTHING TO REPORT.... HOW HARD ARE THEY TRYING????? : Not buying that explanation. They can spend as much or as little as they want, just depends on whether they want to go over the Luxury Tax threshold, and whether Henry wants to open his wallet. To say that the structuring of the roster depends solely on a decision from one player is absurd. If that's what Ben is saying, then he is not a very good GM.
    Posted by Alibiike[/QUOTE]

    Ben doesn't set the budget,  ownership does.  If Ben's looking at $20M to play with, don't you think it makes sense to see if he's going to be on the hook for ~$14M due to Ortiz if he accepts arb?

     
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      From everything that I read and watched on TV, the Sox aren't players om the big stage this year. They do noy have much to trade, and seem to think they're going to see the June- August team of last year not the one that threw up all over themselves in Sept. I too am disappointed in lack of moves, Cuddyer for one seems a natural fit, but I'm afraid they are going on the cheap to fill in obvious holes.
     
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    plus Street have an option year for the 2013 season where he could get up to 9 to 10 mm a year or a buyout at $500,000!!

    I prefer Bailey who is much cheaper and healthy than having often injure proned Street!!
     
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    First it is addition by subtraction and they will add some help like Bailey I suspect. If they just plan on holding pat so to speak this year and making a move next season when they have more flexibility I am fine with that. I think they can win about 90 with just tinkering again. From there is is all on the health of the players.
     
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    [QUOTE]   THIS RO$TER NEEDS $OME "TRAN$FORMATION", WHAT IS THE HOLD UP ????????
    Posted by Bill-806[/QUOTE]

      There is only so much you can do in a day, and after exhaustive negotiations the Sox re-signed Andrew Miller. They filled the LH garbage time specialist that all teams strive for.
     
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    Lester, Buch, Bard, Ellsbury and Youk are the only tradeable people on the team. They aren't going to trade away pitching because that's what they need.

    I see Ellsbury as having more value in a trade than Youk.  He younger, faster, cheaper, etc.  They kind of sealed Ellsbury's fate when they signed Crawford - they are too similar and they don't need both.  Crawford's salary makes him untradeable.  I think Crawford is Lucchino's guy which is another reason he won't get traded. 

    Ellsbury won't stay in Boston.  He'll leave as soon as he can.  Better to trade him now while his value is sky high.

    It's water under the bridge and hindsight is 20/20, but the Crawford signing was a mistake, aside from his low production last year.  His money could have been used to get another starter.  But who knew Ellsbury was going to be as good as he was and Dice-K and Lackey would both need Tommy John surgery?

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: NOTHING TO REPORT.... HOW HARD ARE THEY TRYING????? : Ben doesn't set the budget,  ownership does.  If Ben's looking at $20M to play with, don't you think it makes sense to see if he's going to be on the hook for ~$14M due to Ortiz if he accepts arb?
    Posted by JB-3[/QUOTE]

    The Rs want Ortiz back, otherwise they wouldn't have offered arbitration, which is stupid, unless they have the money spend on what the arbiters decide. You know it will probably be as much as $10M, which is what management should expect.
    Besides, they also have the option of trading players away (Youk, Salty, Scut, to name a few) to free up some cash.
    A good GM would go to Henry and tell him how much he needs to build a championship team. Granted he is not going to get all he asks for, but don't you think he is smart enough to realize that Papi will be on the 2012 payroll?
    My point about Cherington was simply waiting to make any commitments is ludricous if he is waiting for Papi to decide.
     
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    I guess you people can't read??? The problem is MONEY! Theo spent it all last year, 

    The one mistake I see the RS making this year is offering ortiz Arb, 12-14 millon for Ortiz? now thats stupid. 

    the RS could have filled two or three spots with that money. Hopefully this is the last year for ortiz.

    unfortunately, third or forth place is all we can expect in 2012, some money will be freed up for 2013.
     
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    I guess you people can't read??? The problem is MONEY! Theo spent it all last year, 

    The one mistake I see the RS making this year is offering ortiz Arb, 12-14 millon for Ortiz? now thats stupid. 

    the RS could have filled two or three spots with that money. Hopefully this is the last year for ortiz.

    unfortunately, third or forth place is all we can expect in 2012, some money will be freed up for 2013.
     
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    Here's hoping they can wait and work a 2-year deal for a guy like Roy Oswalt.  I say stick with Josh Reddick & Ryan Kalish for RF and hold onto your cash.  That leaves some $$$ for the July trade deadline.  As a team that needs RH hitting, it would NOT be the worst thing for Papi to walk.  There are guys like Vlad Guerrero out there to DH, or Youk could start working into the DH spot and the Red Sox can address 3B.  I, for one, was not in favor of bringing back Scutaro.  I'd much rather have a guy like Alex Gonzalez who catches the ball and can occasionally surprise you with the bat, for probably the same $ or less...
     
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    Bill, they are hung up on how many years to give Wastefield. That takes time, teams are knocking the door down to secure Free Agent Wastefield's services.
     

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