Obama and Cherry need to tender resignations, not just Patreus

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    Re: Obama and Cherry need to tender resignations, not just Patreus

    In response to Softlaw1's comment:
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    Vote with vacant lot addresses as identitification, vote early, vote often, and vote several times for the dead. That's the Democrat party playbook. It's called fraud and a patent violation of the U.S. Constitution.

    It's critical to supress a large block of the Democrat Party, which is made up of dead voters, frequent voters and people who can't legally vote.

    Voter ID in the modern welfare State chasing a billion people is the right formula for a Nation that no longer can do it's census with a few people.

    The most important change in strategy is the notion that when entitlement expansion chasers cry foul through the Democrat Party by invoking the following buzz words, the push back needs to be intensified:

    Hater

    Racist

    Misogynist

    Voter Supressionists 

    Greedy

    Rich

    Poor

    Middle Class

    Discrimination

    These are the calling cards of the leaders of the Socialist movement to complete the transformation of the Nation into the modern Socialist Democracy welfare State.

     There leader, Alinsky, is the strategy the opposition should employ. Beat them at their own political game. The national electorate just showed how ignorant they are, and the socialists find them to be easy marks by using federal identity politics.

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    Socialists.  LOL.

     
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    Re: Obama and Cherry need to tender resignations, not just Patreus

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    Socialists political leaders always are pandering socialism as a policy, while livng the most capitalist individual private property life of anyone in the world. 

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    No doubt these leaders are living "the most capitalist individual property life of anyone in the world".  I take no issue with that assertion, other than the, um, creative syntax.  However, they are only "pandering socialism as a policy" if you define socialism as anything at all that even remotely smacks of promoting the common good.  

     
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    Re: Obama and Cherry need to tender resignations, not just Patreus

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    if you define socialism as anything at all that even remotely smacks of promoting the common good.

    Socialism is a public policy, whether a mandate of a dictator or implemented by election winners in a republic. The fallacy is that collectivism "promotes the common good". The purpose of the Constitution was to defend individual liberty and private property from central power. The maternalization of the federal government is both intellectually flawed and economically disastrous to the common good. The truth is in the history of the budgets and the national debt, both as a percentage of GDP and per capita.

    A common source of agreement of those who disagree on economic public policy is the integrity of the representatives of the Nation. It is critical that representatives who exceed Constitutional authority via abuse of power by lying to the American people and obstruction of justice about matters of national security be handed swift justice.  

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    The fallacy is that collectivism "promotes the common good"

    No, the fallacy is that promoting the common good is equivalent to collectivism.  You folk who throw out these terms so readily, should really read up to understand what they mean.

    The federal government has always be "maternal".  That, coupled with unparalleled freedom of enterprise, comprises a great balance that has driven this country.  

    And, I do indeed agree with you about abuse of power.  Swift justice indeed.  George W to the gallows immediately.

     
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    Re: Obama and Cherry need to tender resignations, not just Patreus

    Baseball teams are an example of collectivism in action. In fact, the best teams are usually the ones that best adhere to collectivist principles.

     
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    Re: Obama and Cherry need to tender resignations, not just Patreus

    C. Rice lied about there being nuclear weapons in Iraq - not WMDs only, but "nuclear weapons".  Where was your outrage then? How many people died based on those outright lies, and distortions?

    The fact is, there was evidence that Saddam had WMDs as well as evidence he did not- same as Bengazi's conflicting evidence. Partisans can pick one piece of evidence out, and claim someone was lying or supressing the truth, but the whole picture is not as clear in either case: the drumming up of the reasons to go to war with Iraq and this whole behgazi fiasco.

    These cases should not be partisan, but sadly, they all are these days.

     
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    Re: Obama and Cherry need to tender resignations, not just Patreus

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    The federal government has always be "maternal

    No, it has not. Promoting the common good is an end, not a means. You folk need to learn the difference in the pursuit of happiness and a guaranteed happiness. You fold need to look at entitlements and collectivism and the national trust.

     

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    And you folk need to learn the difference between a libertarian ideal that has never even remotely existed and the real policies that have kept this country strong and free.

     
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    get the country back from the darkness we are experiencing and will experience continue to for decades to come !  (so much for the positive about our future message that the quintessential conservative Ronald Reagan used with great success.)

     

    we will get our country back - probably after this Septuagenarian is gone.  (a person whose age is in the seventies--€”just who are we talking about?)

     

    there won't be enough hurting to have people vote out those who have caused the hurt.  (economy collapses in September 2008, I lose ¼ of the value of my 403b retirement, Obama is elected in Novermber 2008 and is inaugurated in January of 2009.  Thank god they could NOT be re-elected because their 8 years were up!!!)

     

    People today are selfish, into themselves and their possessions.  (and do not want others to take their hard earned money and live off of it through a welfare state—you were referring to young liberals, right?  Because this sounds an awful like you, and ampoule, and softy/billy/trotter.)

     

    It was the egotistical Commie ME generation (you do know what “commie” refers to do you not?  COMMUNism.  I am afraid there isn'€a single member of the ME generation living on a commune or in a communistic nation anywhere on earth.)

     

    Today it seems it is all about what each individual can get for themselves.  (and about how they are being "taxed to death already," and they should be able to keep more of their own money and to hell with the rest of those bloodsucking, sycophants--”the 47%--who do not pay taxes and are waiting for government to give them things.)

     

    I live in bankrupt California and with Jerry Brown and the Democrats (and Ahnold and his Republicans, €“and the latino maid he was cheating on Maria with (and had his love child with), €”or was California flush with money when the "Terminator" was your guv'€™nor?)

     

    Your Oregon Ducks could end up Numero #1 (Let'€™s make sure all latinos speak only English and no more of them are allowed across the border to take jobs away from willing Americans workers.)

     

    flawed thinking of the left is that they can rape the rich to steal their wealth and all their troubles will go away  (no need to rape them if you are stealing from them!  Oh wait, rape is some illegitimate thing that doesn't really happen to women and cannot cause unwanted pregnancies or risk a woman's health, I forgot!)

     

    but there is not enough money in the hands of the rich to do that - especially if the rich hide their money elsewhere - move from the state or take it off-shore  (sounds like some€" selfish, into themselves and their possessions"€ types to me.)

     

    Am I too paranoid...I hope so !!!  (I am not sure paranoid is what you are at all...that may be giving yourself too much credit.)

     

    A Conservative may not agree with you but will listen & then usually come back with an opinion or rebuttal, factual, intelligent or not, as to why they disagree.  (are YOU listening to my rebuttal?)

     

     

     

     
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    Re: Obama and Cherry need to tender resignations, not just Patreus

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    It's gonna be a long four years listening to Softy and Bill whine about their government.

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    i believe bill and softy are the same tool. their complete racist stoupidity could only belong to the same moron.

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    Seriously?  You think there could only be one person like that?

     
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    Re: Obama and Cherry need to tender resignations, not just Patreus

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    same as Bengazi's conflicting evidence.

    Stooge, who goes by Moonslavic, I'm calling you out as a partisan idiot. WMD intelligence was the same intelligence the Democrat Congress had, as the Democract Congress voted "all in" on Iraq and removing a man who used WMD and gassed his own people.

    And why not respond to the point that C Rice said Iraq had "nuclear weapons"? Where was your outrage? 

    Now, stooge, listen up! There was no conflicting intellgience on the 9-11 Muslim terrorist attack! It was, as the since administration target just testified, a terrorist attack from all intelligence reports! There was zero intelligence that it was "a sponaneous demonstration provoked by a Mohammad Muslim hate video", it was hating muslims who murdered Americans!

    You are totally wrong, clown. There is much evidence that came out at the start that what motivated the attack was the spreading outrage over the video. There was also evidence that it was more than that or seperate from that. You choose to focus on just some of the evidence. I'm sure if this was McCain in office, you'd be taking the other side.

    Impeach him!!!!!!!!!

    You clowns are that are calling for impeachment and secession are ruining any chance for the Republicans to look like a credible choice in 2014 or 2016. Now we will be stuck with hillary for another 8 years.

    You just don't get it.

    Clowns like you are who put Obama back into office.




     
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    Re: Obama and Cherry need to tender resignations, not just Patreus

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    same as Bengazi's conflicting evidence.

    Stooge, who goes by Moonslavic, I'm calling you out as a partisan idiot. WMD intelligence was the same intelligence the Democrat Congress had, as the Democract Congress voted "all in" on Iraq and removing a man who used WMD and gassed his own people.

    Now, stooge, listen up! There was no conflicting intellgience on the 9-11 Muslim terrorist attack! It was, as the since administration target just testified, a terrorist attack from all intelligence reports! There was zero intelligence that it was "a sponaneous demonstration provoked by a Mohammad Muslim hate video", it was hating muslims who murdered Americans!

    Impeach him!!!!!!!!!

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    If he pulled a DOJ, Gitmo, Ghraib, Valerie Plame (this was a trillion dollar nuclear intelligence compromise, and it was deliberate). SEC tampering, Science ignoring, Budget & Economy Destroying, or War Profiteering scheme, I might agree with you.

    The Republicans are not helping their tarnished message or prospects in 2016 by making an obsessed and sour grape ridden mountain out of this mole hill, which is admittedly an irritating & tragic failure, but dwarfed when you consider the # of policy induced deaths caused by Iraq, Gitmo, & Katrina. 

    I also believe Obama should have welcomed a select investigation, as insisted upon by Graham & McCain, so they can't accuse him of a coverrup if/when the results come back. Although I predict there shall be no long term effects, he's making a mistake here, which will result in an added burden to his task as Commander In Chief.

    Far worse than this & the Fiscal Cliff is the developments in the hopeless Middle East, which appears to be in worse shape than it's been in decades; I'm sure his opponents shall want to impeach him for that too. It's a good thing 9/11 didn't happen on his watch; could it be that that ridiculous impeachment proceeding over a bodily fluid tainted cigar distracted our lawmakers from mitigating that event?

     

     
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    Re: Obama and Cherry need to tender resignations, not just Patreus

    I read 43% of Republicans want their state to secede. Talk about sore losers and driving away any chance to swing new people to their party. Newsflash: the extremist revolutionaries are already part of their base.

    Maybe they listened to my "America: Love It or Leave It".

     
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    Re: Obama and Cherry need to tender resignations, not just Patreus

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    same as Bengazi's conflicting evidence.

    Stooge, who goes by Moonslavic, I'm calling you out as a partisan idiot. WMD intelligence was the same intelligence the Democrat Congress had, as the Democract Congress voted "all in" on Iraq and removing a man who used WMD and gassed his own people.

    And why not respond to the point that C Rice said Iraq had "nuclear weapons"? Where was your outrage? 

    Now, stooge, listen up! There was no conflicting intellgience on the 9-11 Muslim terrorist attack! It was, as the since administration target just testified, a terrorist attack from all intelligence reports! There was zero intelligence that it was "a sponaneous demonstration provoked by a Mohammad Muslim hate video", it was hating muslims who murdered Americans!

    You are totally wrong, clown. There is much evidence that came out at the start that what motivated the attack was the spreading outrage over the video. There was also evidence that it was more than that or seperate from that. You choose to focus on just some of the evidence. I'm sure if this was McCain in office, you'd be taking the other side.

    Impeach him!!!!!!!!!

    You clowns are that are calling for impeachment and secession are ruining any chance for the Republicans to look like a credible choice in 2014 or 2016. Now we will be stuck with hillary for another 8 years.

    You just don't get it.

    Clowns like you are who put Obama back into office.




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    Admittedly, your posts are superior to any of mine.

     
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    Re: Obama and Cherry need to tender resignations, not just Patreus

    hahaha.  you lost.  deal with it.  God Bless America.

    4 more.  Yes, we can.

    so much for your whining, pandering, predictions.

    America is right...you are wrong.

     
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    Re: Obama and Cherry need to tender resignations, not just Patreus

    And the monster rises from the depths...

     
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