One more time: why are LH hitters better against RH pitchers and RH hitters better against LH pitchers?

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    One more time: why are LH hitters better against RH pitchers and RH hitters better against LH pitchers?

    This question has come up before but I'm not sure I've ever seen a definitive answer.  The funny thing is that it's one of the gospel truths about baseball but nobody ever talks about why it works that way.

    I've always assumed that there's a physiological reason for it but I have no clue if that's true.  It seems to me that a RH hitter would get a slightly better look at a ball thrown by a lefty, because the release point is from his right and comes at him from outside to in.  This would especially make a difference on breaking pitches.  It would be easier to 'hang in there' because the ball doesn't start out right at him. 

     
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    Re: One more time: why are LH hitters better against RH pitchers and RH hitters better against LH pitchers?

    I think the philosophy is that when a right handed hitter faces a left handed pitcher, he visually sees the ball better and visa versa with a left handed hitter against a right handed pitcher. on breaking pitchers from a left hander, the ball breaks over the plate to the right handed hitterand the same visa versa to the left handed hitter against the right hander.

     
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    Re: One more time: why are LH hitters better against RH pitchers and RH hitters better against LH pitchers?

     

    There are more right-handed throwers than left-handed.  Hence, a left-handed hitter sees right-handed pitching the vast majority of the time.  It makes a huge difference.

    When a left-handed hitter faces a left-handed pitcher, to him it feels like the ball is coming in from 1st base somewhere....it's a very uncomfortable feeling.  Especially, seeing a breaking ball or someone throwing in the 90's.

    It TRULY amazes me seeing someone like Ellsbury hit lefties pretty well without ever 'bailing out'.

     

     
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    In response to Hfxsoxnut's comment:

    This question has come up before but I'm not sure I've ever seen a definitive answer.  The funny thing is that it's one of the gospel truths about baseball but nobody ever talks about why it works that way.

    I've always assumed that there's a physiological reason for it but I have no clue if that's true.  It seems to me that a RH hitter would get a slightly better look at a ball thrown by a lefty, because the release point is from his right and comes at him from outside to in.  This would especially make a difference on breaking pitches.  It would be easier to 'hang in there' because the ball doesn't start out right at him. 



    Most right handed batters are right eye dominant and lefties vice versa. Against an opposite side pitcher it's easier for the dominant of the batter to pick up the ball. But they also get the benefit of a a breaking pitch breaking down and in instead of down and away.

     
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    Re: One more time: why are LH hitters better against RH pitchers and RH hitters better against LH pitchers?

    Actually it would be the opposite. A lefty hitter is right eye dominant and a righty hitter left eye dominant. A lefty pitcher simply has the ability to hide the ball better and break his pitches from inside to outside on a lefty. A righty pitcher similarly. I could be wrong but because there are fewer lefties, most lefties struggle more v. lefty pitchers than righty batters struggle v. righty pitchers, probably because you see them all the time and throughout the different age/league levels in your life.

     
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    Re: One more time: why are LH hitters better against RH pitchers and RH hitters better against LH pitchers?

    It's all about repitions 

     
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    or repetitions..:-)

     
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    and that is true because as a lefty hitter over the course of the season, you simply are facing less lefties overall. You face righties all the time, same with righty hitters, but definitely there is an advantage to facing a lefty pitcher for a righty hitter. The stats prove it and that's why platoons are out there.

     
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    Re: One more time: why are LH hitters better against RH pitchers and RH hitters better against LH pitchers?

    we are instinctive animals honed by millions of years of flight or fight survival...we fear attacks from behind and can not ready ourselves properly when the attacker comes at us from the side...

    As always - 100% correct!

     

     
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    It's all about repitions 



    Repetitions

     

     
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    we are instinctive animals hones by millions of years of flight or fight survival...we fear attacks from behind and can not ready ourselves properly when the attacker comes at us from the side...

    As always - 100% correct!

     




    wow, that's actually a great comment. In fact, I may vote for you if you ever run for a political office. Maybe I should call you Aristotle.

     
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    we are instinctive animals honed by millions of years of flight or fight survival...we fear attacks from behind and can not ready ourselves properly when the attacker comes at us from the side...

    As always - 100% correct!

     

     




    wow, that's actually a great comment. In fact, I may vote for you if you ever run for a political office. Maybe I should call you Aristotle.

     

     

     



    just don't kill me for telling the truth like they did to his teacher's teacher - Socrates

     

     
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    Actually it would be the opposite. A lefty hitter is right eye dominant and a righty hitter left eye dominant. A lefty pitcher simply has the ability to hide the ball better and break his pitches from inside to outside on a lefty. A righty pitcher similarly. I could be wrong but because there are fewer lefties, most lefties struggle more v. lefty pitchers than righty batters struggle v. righty pitchers, probably because you see them all the time and throughout the different age/league levels in your life.

     



    Danny I hate to disagree agree w/ you but almost 100% of right handed batters are right eye dominant. It's split on lefties cause some left handed batters do everything else right handed and aren't true lefties so they may still be right eye dominant. It's an easy thing to check.  

     

     
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    we are instinctive animals hones by millions of years of flight or fight survival...we fear attacks from behind and can not ready ourselves properly when the attacker comes at us from the side...

    As always - 100% correct!

     



    So it's a primal thing.  I like it.

     

     
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    we are instinctive animals hones by millions of years of flight or fight survival...we fear attacks from behind and can not ready ourselves properly when the attacker comes at us from the side...

    As always - 100% correct!

     



    So it's a primal thing.  I like it.

     

     

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    Yeah...up here in Oregon there are occassional cougar attacks.  The bizzare thing is that a cougar won't attack facing its prey.  It only attacks from behind snapping the neck.  So, the joke up here is that when joggers or hikers go off the beaten path, you should wear a haloween mask on the back side of the head to fool the cougars..

    When I was younger, I didn't mind getting attacked by the two-legged cougars.  Now, only the gold-diggers come after me..Laughing

     
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    Re: One more time: why are LH hitters better against RH pitchers and RH hitters better against LH pitchers?

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    Actually it would be the opposite. A lefty hitter is right eye dominant and a righty hitter left eye dominant. A lefty pitcher simply has the ability to hide the ball better and break his pitches from inside to outside on a lefty. A righty pitcher similarly. I could be wrong but because there are fewer lefties, most lefties struggle more v. lefty pitchers than righty batters struggle v. righty pitchers, probably because you see them all the time and throughout the different age/league levels in your life.



    Danny,

    your definately on the right track with your assesment. The exception to the rule, really depends on the hitter and the type of stuff the pitcher has. Rivara's outpitch the cutter makes him a tough at bat for a lefty.  It also is why Petitte and Lester also fare well vs righties, but neither dominate left handed hitters. 

    As a rule most lefty specialist have a sweeping breaking ball that they can locate on the black, down in the zone, away. Often times from a closed stance helps to hide the ball and throwing it from the 3/4 or they drop down "larado".

    The theory goes something like this all hitters at the big league level can handle the ball on the inner half and the ball down broad street. Hitters with good splits L v L and R v R are the ones that can also handle the ball on the outer half and hit it hard the other way (keeping the front shoulder closed and hitting the inside of the ball). Vs rolling over it or hitting weak fly balls.

     
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    Re: One more time: why are LH hitters better against RH pitchers and RH hitters better against LH pitchers?

    Otherwise why would switch hitters switch hit?

    Or more precisely , why not just mess with the pitcher and switch sides after every pitch?

     

    "There are lots of people who mistake their imagination for their memory.-Josh Billings

     
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    Or more precisely , why not just mess with the pitcher and switch sides after every pitch?



    Probably illegal.

     

     
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    Re: One more time: why are LH hitters better against RH pitchers and RH hitters better against LH pitchers?

    As a switch hitter (LH dominant) I never had an issue hitting LHP batting LH. Im ambidextrous, so maybe that has something to do with it.

    LHP are the minority and most batters, LH or RH, are just used to a RHP. Its much easier to see the ball coming from the opposite of which you bat, so I imagine thats why most splits are more dominant one way.

     
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    Re: One more time: why are LH hitters better against RH pitchers and RH hitters better against LH pitchers?

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    Or more precisely , why not just mess with the pitcher and switch sides after every pitch?

     



    Probably illegal.

     

     

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    Not illegal for the batter unless it's done while the pitcher is ready to pitch.  That being said, if a batter tried it more than once, he'd probably be wearing the next pitch.

     

    It is illegal for the pitcher to change throwing hands during an at bat unless the batter is pinch hit for.

     
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    Re: One more time: why are LH hitters better against RH pitchers and RH hitters better against LH pitchers?

                                           The batter is able to eliminate the intimidation pitch, the curve ball , from the pitchers repertoire.

     
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    Re: One more time: why are LH hitters better against RH pitchers and RH hitters better against LH pitchers?

    I'd guess about 90% of it is the curve ball.  No matter how good you are, it will still take a split second to decide if you can stride into the ball.

    The other 10% is a guess, but against the opposite hand, you never have to cross midline.  R v R, there has to be a point that the pitch goes from being on your left side to being on your right side, unless you have a really open stance.  But even then, it has to cross over, maybe not just in your field of vision.

    That's a big issue for kids.  Some kids with even modest learning disabilities won't be able to cross midline.

    Pumpsie is useless 90% of the time, but he'd probably have some real good insight here.

     

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