Peter Abraham:Francona's "words clearly indicate that Buchholz is is dealing with an injury that could could knock him out for the rest of the season."

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    WEEI.com, citing a "source familiar with the matter", reported earlier this morning that the Red Sox are very concerned that Clay Buchholz's sore lower back is the result of a more serious injury than a muscle strain.

    Terry Francona did not directly confirm that. But his words clearly indicate that Buchholz is is dealing with an injury that could could knock him out for the rest of the season.

    "Oh, boy. The best way I think I can answer that is that it’s not been the simplest muscle strain. That’s pretty obvious," Francona said. "I meant what I said [Wednesday]. I don’t know if I meant what I said [Tuesday]."

    Buchholz threw off a mound on Monday and looked good according to all observers. But instead of repeating that step on Wednesday, he was shut down. The Sox have said Buchholz will see another specialist later this week but have provided no details beyond that.

    “It’s not been the simplest muscle strain I’ve ever seen. We are serious. We want to have everything answered before we turn him loose. Because if we turn him loose, we don’t want to turn back," Francona said. "At the same time, we want to take care of him. I still feel that and I think our medical people do, too."

    Is Francona concerned that Buchholz will not pitch again this season?

    “Not right now,” he said. “I think we want to get him looked at. What I said is what I said.”

    Buchholz has not pitched since June 16. In recent weeks, he has said repeatedly that he does not want to pitch in a game until he is 100-percent pain free.

    With the trade deadline approaching, the Red Sox may be compelled to obtain a starter given the state of their rotation. Buchholz is in limbo, Andrew Miller has so far been unreliable against American League teams and Tim Wakefield has a 7.06 ERA in his last five starts.

    The Red Sox will closely monitor Seattle lefthander Erik Bedard when he makes his start on Friday. The Mariners have been scouting Red Sox prospects in Portland and Pawtucket in preparation for a possible trade.

    The team also has been in contact with the Dodgers regarding Hiroki Kuroda. The big prize would be Rockies ace Ubaldo Jimenez, but that would likely require a significant price in terms of prospects.

    Other starters reportedly available include Rich Harden, Jeremy Guthrie and Aaron Harang.

     
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    Re: Peter Abraham:Francona's "words clearly indicate that Buchholz is is dealing with an injury that could could knock h...

    i do not understand why the sox would go after bedard. Yes he is a good pitcher but he is always getting injured and spends way too much time on the DL. The last thing the sox need is another starter who cannot stay healthy. Same goes for rich harden. The only guy that makes sense is ubaldo jimenez. He is the caliber of pitcher the sox need and is durable.
     
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    Re: Peter Abraham:Francona's "words clearly indicate that Buchholz is is dealing with an injury that could could knock h...

    Because when he's healthy, he's one of the best pitchers in the game.  I don't think the Sox are looking to Bedard as a long-term solution, so he would only need to stay healthy for 3 more months.  He would be far cheaper in terms of talent than the Jimenez, and it keeps him out of the Bronx, where he could be a viable post-season #2.  Also, if he finishes the year strong, he would have a shot at type A status in free agency, which could pay dividends in next year's draft.

    All things considered, I think Bedard is the best choice, though it would be very strange to see 3 lefties in the rotation.
     
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    Re: Peter Abraham:Francona's "words clearly indicate that Buchholz is is dealing with an injury that could could knock h...

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    [QUOTE]i do not understand why the sox would go after bedard. Yes he is a good pitcher but he is always getting injured and spends way too much time on the DL. The last thing the sox need is another starter who cannot stay healthy. Same goes for rich harden. The only guy that makes sense is ubaldo jimenez. He is the caliber of pitcher the sox need and is durable.
    Posted by redsoxpride34[/QUOTE]

    Did you happen to see what the Rox asked for from the Yankees?
    Jimenez would cost the Sox some very good propects, something that, after the Gomnzalez trade, they don't have a ton of at the monent.
     
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       Aaron Harang 9-2 3.45 ERA and Ludwick as RH bat off bench.
     
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    Re: Peter Abraham:Francona's "words clearly indicate that Buchholz is is dealing with an injury that could could knock h...

    ya the rox asked for a lot and they knew they would not get it. But when you start negotiations you always ask for more than you expect to get back. The rockies are asking for 3 top prospects. That could be weiland, doubront, and kalish. I would do that no problem. Heres why, with ubaldo in the rotation we will be set for many years to come. We would have 2 pitchers under the age of 30 and one just over. Yes weiland and doubront could be bullpen guys for the sox but both are starters for a reason. Kalish is a good player no doubt, and was the sox future rf until he got injured. Thats when josh reddick took that title from him. Reddick has all the characteristics you look for in a right fielder. He can hit, he has a cannon for an arm, he throws right handed. They also have bryce brentz in the system as well as guys like alex hassan, brandon jacobs, and chih-hsien chiang. 
     
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    [QUOTE]Because when he's healthy, he's one of the best pitchers in the game.  I don't think the Sox are looking to Bedard as a long-term solution, so he would only need to stay healthy for 3 more months.  He would be far cheaper in terms of talent than the Jimenez, and it keeps him out of the Bronx, where he could be a viable post-season #2.  Also, if he finishes the year strong, he would have a shot at type A status in free agency, which could pay dividends in next year's draft. All things considered, I think Bedard is the best choice, though it would be very strange to see 3 lefties in the rotation.
    Posted by slomag[/QUOTE]

    Slomag,

    I agree bedard is a good pitcher when he is healthy but thats just it, he is never healthy. He always gets hurt. He is 32 years old and has never pitched 200 innings in a season and has never started 30 games . Since he joined the mariners prior to the 2008 season, he has not started more thna 15 games for them. So you want to replace one injury prone pitcher with another one that is 5 years older? That makes no sense. The sox need someone who is young and durable. Not old and fragile. Thats why ubaldo jimenez makes way more sense for the sox than any of the other names that have been mentioned.

     
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    Re: Peter Abraham:Francona's "words clearly indicate that Buchholz is is dealing with an injury that could could knock h...

    We want Buch to see one more specialist, Friday-Monday-ish, before we completely turn him loose,’’ manager Terry Francona said yesterday. “Just because, again, he’s starting to get aggressive, and everything that’s gone on in there, we just want to make sure this kid’s OK.’’

    Francona did not have any details about what doctor would examine Buchholz, saying team medical director Tom Gill was coordinating that. This would be at least the fourth opinion on Buchholz’s injury.

    Buchholz has not pitched since June 16 because of what has been described as a muscle strain. He received a cortisone shot July 6 and on Monday threw off the mound for the first time since then.

    The hope was Buchholz would progress from there. But now comes another delay.

    “We just want to make sure we’re not doing something wrong here,’’ Francona said. “He had a really good day [on Monday]. It’s a lot to ask moving forward if he’s going to start pitching in games. We just want to make sure we do the right thing.’’

    Francona said Buchholz had not reinjured himself, and that the Sox were encouraged by his arm strength on Monday.

     
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    Re: Peter Abraham:Francona's "words clearly indicate that Buchholz is is dealing with an injury that could could knock h...

    Sounds to me that he's done for the season and the sawx aren't going to say that before the deadline. If they did then other teams would have them over a barrel in any trade talks for a starter.
     
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    Re: Peter Abraham:Francona's "words clearly indicate that Buchholz is is dealing with an injury that could could knock h...

    TheBabe, 

    You make a good point. I too get the feeling that buchholz is going to be out for awhile but the sox are trying to make it sound like he wont so they wont sound so desperate.
     
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    Re: Peter Abraham:Francona's "words clearly indicate that Buchholz is is dealing with an injury that could could knock h...

    In Response to Re: Peter Abraham:Francona's "words clearly indicate that Buchholz is is dealing with an injury that could could knock him out for the rest of the season.":
    [QUOTE]Sounds to me that he's done for the season and the sawx aren't going to say that before the deadline. If they did then other teams would have them over a barrel in any trade talks for a starter.
    Posted by -TheBabe-------------------[/QUOTE]

    Exactly right.    At this point, Buchholz is not even in a 1st week of spring training mode and will need to be declared fit to resume normal pitching or face a possibility off season surgery.     With any luck he returns sooner than later.
     
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    Re: Peter Abraham:Francona's "words clearly indicate that Buchholz is is dealing with an injury that could could knock h...

    In Response to Re: Peter Abraham:Francona's "words clearly indicate that Buchholz is is dealing with an injury that could could knock him out for the rest of the season.":
    [QUOTE]Sounds to me that he's done for the season and the sawx aren't going to say that before the deadline. If they did then other teams would have them over a barrel in any trade talks for a starter.
    Posted by -TheBabe-------------------[/QUOTE]

    If you could only read and comprehend as well as you troll.
     
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    Re: Peter Abraham:Francona's "words clearly indicate that Buchholz is is dealing with an injury that could could knock h...

    Hmmm, I like Pete, but thats not what Tito was really saying. Maybe he should nopt read between the lines. Tito's words are in print for all to see. This is getting out of hand by the media frenzy!
     
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    Re: Peter Abraham:Francona's "words clearly indicate that Buchholz is is dealing with an injury that could could knock h...

    No surprise here.  I warned in my posts for the past several weeks that Clay might not be back on the hill this year.  We are going to lose prospects and perhaps Reddick, alas, for another Lackey
     

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