Re: RED SOX vs Pats
posted at 5/3/2013 2:37 PM EDT
In response to royf19's comment:
In response to JimfromFlorida's comment:
With the exception of Harrison and Dillon all the other guys were DRAFT picks. Wilfolk, Samuels, Willie, Law, Seymour Bruschi, I consider Vrabel a smart player not great player pick up who was used to maximize his abilities.
The Pats in FA have gone after smart and good not great players most of the time. The supposed GREAT players they did get were not what was hyped with the exceptions as you noted.
The RS have kept thier draft picks and are grooming them. Unlike football Baseball can do that.
The guys the RS picked up are smart and good not great players with whom you know exactly what you are going to get year in and year out.
I stand by the fact that good hardworking players that both the Pats have and now RS have signed are the reasons why they are better and winning teams.
BTW the reason the Pats have not won the SB is not because of lack of players but IMHO due to two very lucky plays by the NYG. Just my opionion
Agree overall. I'd add that if Gronk was healthy that would have helped too along with Welker catching that pass.
To put down the Pats like Drewski did for making it sound like they've gone off the track since winning their third Super Bowl is a bit unfair because they've remained an elite team year after year and have been to two Super Bowls since then.
I do agree with Drewski about the myth that the Pats won w/o stars. That bothered me when that was talked about during the first Super Bowl win. Players he mentioned were stars back then. Of course, it's the players that win.
However, I think it's weak when fans use the "Belichick is too arrogant and that's why they haven't won anymore Super Bowls" line. So what is Belichick supposed to do. Run things the way fans think he should or how others do things. That's ridiculous. He has the way he wants to do things and is confident in what he does. Right or wrong, that's how you have to run things. Being confident in how you do things isn't arrogant. Never quite understood that.
It wasn't Belichick who says the Patriots win because of the "Patriot Way." It's the brain-dead sychophants who say that. Belichick doesn't run things any different now than at the beginning of his tenure. He always traded around to amass draft picks but he also went after impact players in the draft when he's had high picks -- Seymour, Mayo. He always took chances with troubled stars -- Dillon, Moss, Haynesworth, Ochocinco. Sometimes they worked out, sometimes they didn't.
Its not about coaching, its about GMing. Since Piolli left whoever occupies our GM seat is nothing more than a yes man. Bill is the real GM. And Im sick of being under talented at D and under the cap. For goodness sake, spend some money! How many years now have we been weak in the secondary? Weak in the pass rush?
I have no issues w Bills coaching. I have an issue w him always trading down (except for this year, this year it made sense to), never going after expensive free agents, never making trades. He dumpster dives for free agents, never picks in the first round.
To think that you can build a championship calibur team based on fourth round draft picks and retreads is arrogant. Again, nothing to do w his coaching, everything to do w his GM skills.
And the reason why we remain elite even though he fails every year to bring in top level talent wears #12.
How many dollars are we under the cap right now?