Re: regarding Carl Crawford..
posted at 11/2/2011 10:51 PM EDT
In Response to Re: regarding Carl Crawford..
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: regarding Carl Crawford.. : Regarding LF, the configuration of Tropicana Field is very different - so much so that the Rays seem to prefer their best defenders to play LF and CF, keeping their weakest OF in right. Desmond Jennings is very good defensively, and is primarily playing LF. Regarding OBP comparisons, if you take Crawford's career OBP average up to the signing, it is slightly lower than Ellsbury's at the same point. If you throw out ages 20 - 23, when Crawford was facing MLB pitching, but Ellsbury was in the minors, Crawford holds the slight edge. Neither one is exactly an on-base machine - the better they hit, the higher the OBP. Regarding Ellsbury's injuries, whether mis-diagnosed or not, he was on the DL for 6 weeks from April until his return in Philly. He was then on the DL again from May 24th to August 4th. That's 11 weeks - 17 weeks all together. And then he shut it down for the season on August 13th, and claimed he wasn't 100% in December, so essentially Jacoby Ellsbury's body heals at 20% the normal human rate. Is it really unreasonable for the FO to feel they couldn't trust him to be healthy and productive going forward? The Sox overpaid for Crawford, but with the understanding that 1) there are very few similar profiles and baseball, and none on the FA market until at least 2014, and 2) if the Yankees failed to sign Lee, they would gladly overpay for Crawford, with the intention of trading Brett Gardner for pitching and 3) eventually, they could trade Ellsbury and make up for a portion of the cost of Crawford by filling out the OF with good players playing below cost. Finally, when making the Manny comparison, keep in mind that the total Red Sox payroll in 2000 was $78M. In today's dollars, it would be like signing Prince Fielder for $35M / year.
Posted by slomag[/QUOTE]The dimensions of the Trop just don't back this up. Crawford was in LF because he doesn't have the arm to make a throw from RF to 3B. I am pretty sure from getting to watch him play a full season in Boston he was almost never in CF because he has trouble reading balls over his head and that this would all be compounded in CF with the most difficult reads of the three fields. Left Field
- 315 ft (96 m) Left-Center
- 370 ft (110 m) Center Field
- 404 ft (123 m) Right-Center
- 370 ft (110 m) Right Field
- 322 ft (98 m)
The NYY weren't going to sign Crawford but I sure wouldn't have minded if he was eating $120M of payroll personnel budget for them for the next six years.
Ellsbury in hindsight makes everyone who thought he was a slacker look silly and his 2011 is better than any year Crawford ever has had and by a wide margin. If they signed Crawford to trade Ellsbury, keep in mid they also gave up a #1 pick to sign Crawford. Crawford's contract makes him untradable and likely makes Ellsbury unsignable.
As for Manny Theo Epstein wasn't here in 2000. He started whining about that contract in 2003 and did not stop until after the 2006 off season. Manny just happens to be the only OFer in history of the game to get a bigger contract than CC's. I find it ironic, sorry but I do.
I don't know if your theory is right why they signed CC. Personally I think they hated the 2012 class of FA, weren't all that high on their prospects, were scared what Cameron would ome back with at his age after missing as season and were concerned that Drew was aging out badly.
Clearly CC's contract was impacted by the equally if not even more jaw dropping bad reach the Nats made with Werth. In fact I think that was the guy the RS were tracking first and probably thought they could get him for JBay money. He made more sense. Could play all three OF positions. He was a RH bat and the RS were stacked with LH on the big club in the minor league system in OF as well.
It is a puzzling signing, the most puzzling Epstein ever made considering how strict he was with valuations for his own players went the went in the open market.