remdog and family.

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    Re: remdog and family.

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    Who among us does not have a screw-up brother, child, uncle, sister, whatever!?????  Who among us ever thinks said "screw-up" is going to KILL SOMEONE???? 

    NONE OF US!!!!

    Do we all know they are capable of doing something crazy?   SURE!   

    Blatantly violent?

    None of us!

    That being said........    He had been violent!

    That's the time ALL CO-Dependance should end!  No more help until that relative gets SERIOUS HELP!  

    In retrospect.....  That's where the TWO FAMILIES failed this young woman!!!!!   The Remys never  should have asked her family to drop the ?????   Charges, restraining order, .....  Whatever it was........  & her family was (in retrospect) foolish for not pushing her kendo whatever it took to keep him behind bars!  It's very sad, as both families will be forced to live with that for the rest of their lives.  God!!!   How incredibly sad!!!!  Who knows????   We may find that she was pushing back againthe her own family's wishes to keep him locked up?  Either way.......   It seems that Jerry & family certainly made a tragic mistake in asking her family to back off?????  TRAGIC!!!!!!

     

    What a needless tragedy!   A guy would have to hit my daughter ONCE before he was forced out of the picture!  PERIOD!  End of story!  NO EXCEPTIONS!  NO CHOICES!



    Having said all this.......  It's still appropriate to express sympathies toward BOTH families.

     
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    Sure, pray for whoever you want - but it is at least worth noting the original prayer didn't mention the victim or the victim's families. 

    I personally do think it's offensive to only pray for or mention Remy's family in this situation. 

    Also, while praying for all parties involved seems like a wonderful thing to me, I'd also like to mention I hope Remy's wife is actively held accountable for being responsible for dissuading the victim from obtaining a restraining order which was obviously a very good idea to obtain in retrospect. 

    I'm not sure she deserves jail time but a civil law suit may well be viable and I would support the victim's family pursing whatever financail compensation or justice is considered legal under the law against the Remy family, whom I will also pray for.

         
     
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    How about not being a jerk and give prayers to both?

    Of course prayers or thoughts, and condolences go to the Martel family, that should come without saying.  But most of us here grew up listening to Remy almost everyday, he's been in our life's and not them.  Negativity is systemic and going around trying to blame every person you can when tragedy strikes is the easy thing to do.  Why don't you try having heart and recognize that two families lost their children and add to the good in this world and not the systemic hate and negativity. 



    So I'm a jerk for not praying for the Remy family?? The family that should be in everyone's mind is the Martel's...end of story.

    Yes, I have also listened to Remy and watched him play his entire career in Boston and with the Angels...I like the guy and feel bad for him personally...however, I now believe they should be culpable for influencing the decision of the victim who ended up paying the ultimate price, her life!!!

    I don't think you're a jerk for wanting to pray for the Remy's, although, I would not waste a second myself praying for their cold-blooded murdering son who has been a problem for them for years. Are you praying for Aaron Hernandez and his family right now too?? If so, we are far different people.

     

     
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    How about not being a jerk and give prayers to both?

    Of course prayers or thoughts, and condolences go to the Martel family, that should come without saying.  But most of us here grew up listening to Remy almost everyday, he's been in our life's and not them.  Negativity is systemic and going around trying to blame every person you can when tragedy strikes is the easy thing to do.  Why don't you try having heart and recognize that two families lost their children and add to the good in this world and not the systemic hate and negativity. 

     



    So I'm a jerk for not praying for the Remy family?? The family that should be in everyone's mind is the Martel's...end of story.

     

    Yes, I have also listened to Remy and watched him play his entire career in Boston and with the Angels...I like the guy and feel bad for him personally...however, I now believe they should be culpable for influencing the decision of the victim who ended up paying the ultimate price, her life!!!

    I don't think you're a jerk for wanting to pray for the Remy's, although, I would not waste a second myself praying for their cold-blooded murdering son who has been a problem for them for years. Are you praying for Aaron Hernandez and his family right now too?? If so, we are far different people.

     

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    I could care less who you pray for or if you pray at all.  I just get sick when tragedy strikes and people look for other people to blame and hate and start slinging mud.  I don't want you to pray for Remy, I don't care.  But you can at least acknowledge that this is an extremely difficult time for him and many people are going to hold empathy for him.  Your entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine and if I think you are being negative, misdirecting your hate, and taking it on the wrong people....I'm going to call you out on it.

     
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    It's not about prayer with me.  It's about accepting that it could happen to almost anyone, one day you may find yourself in similar shoes....and you will be truly grateful for every friend you have. 

     
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    But I'm sorry for saying you were being a jerk, I could have said what I said without saying that.

     
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    Some folks just aren't happy unlees they can point a finger...

     
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    Again, I only wish the killer was tried in Texas.  Then, we wouldn't have to pay for his worthless 'therapy' the rest of his life.

    Of course, there is some consolation to the rectal therapy he'll be receiving for a long time.

     
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    But I'm sorry for saying you were being a jerk, I could have said what I said without saying that.



    Good boyWink

     
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    How about not being a jerk and give prayers to both?

    Of course prayers or thoughts, and condolences go to the Martel family, that should come without saying.  But most of us here grew up listening to Remy almost everyday, he's been in our life's and not them.  Negativity is systemic and going around trying to blame every person you can when tragedy strikes is the easy thing to do.  Why don't you try having heart and recognize that two families lost their children and add to the good in this world and not the systemic hate and negativity. 

     

     



    So I'm a jerk for not praying for the Remy family?? The family that should be in everyone's mind is the Martel's...end of story.

     

     

    Yes, I have also listened to Remy and watched him play his entire career in Boston and with the Angels...I like the guy and feel bad for him personally...however, I now believe they should be culpable for influencing the decision of the victim who ended up paying the ultimate price, her life!!!

    I don't think you're a jerk for wanting to pray for the Remy's, although, I would not waste a second myself praying for their cold-blooded murdering son who has been a problem for them for years. Are you praying for Aaron Hernandez and his family right now too?? If so, we are far different people.

     

     

     

     

     



    When desegregation started in schools the black children were treated terribly by some, adults included.

     

    I heard the counselor of one of the little girls speak.  

    The child had to be escorted into school because people lined up to yell, curse and hurl hateful words at her. As she walked along her lips were moving as if she were talking to someone. One day her counselor asked what she was saying.

    She said she was praying for the people who were yelling at her.  The counselor was suprised by this so he asked her why she was praying for them.  She answered by saying "don't you think they need prayers?"

    This child was young, around ten years old.

    Think about it.  Can we at least behave as well as a ten year old girl.

     
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    Re: remdog and family.

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    Sympathies should go out to both families.

    Would the sentiments on this forum have been different if an anonymous 27-year-old woman had fatally stabbed Jerry Remy's son? Would the sympathies have been with the woman's family?

    Allegiances with celebrities often color one's judgment.

     




     

    Framing it as sympathies towards one family vs. the other is the wrong way to look at it, I think. I feel beyond horrible for BOTH families in this case, and I don't think I'd feel differently if the roles were reversed. 

    One set of parents lost a child to a murder...the other has to live with the knowledge that their child was responsible for a murder. Two very different forms of hell, but hell nonetheless. I cannot begin to fathom what either of these families are going through right now.

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    and left their grandchild parentless, one by the hands of the other. 

     
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    It seems that when something like this happens, people want to make more of it than what it is. Always looking for answers. Putting blame on the system, the culture, the drugs, the weapon, the parents, etc. Sometimes even blaming the victim. It is natural to over think these things, but it is a mistake. Put the blame squarely where it belongs. On the criminal. The sad reality is that there are some evil people in this world. 

    Stabbed by Foulke.

     
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    Re: remdog and family.

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    It seems that when something like this happens, people want to make more of it than what it is. Always looking for answers. Putting blame on the system, the culture, the drugs, the weapon, the parents, etc. Sometimes even blaming the victim. It is natural to over think these things, but it is a mistake. Put the blame squarely where it belongs. On the criminal. The sad reality is that there are some evil people in this world. 

    Stabbed by Foulke.



    Agreed.  Remy has made very bad choices for a long time, he is responsible for his actions.

     

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