Rockies reportedly want Kyle Weiland, Will Middlebrooks from Red Sox for Ubaldo Jimenez

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    Rockies reportedly want Kyle Weiland, Will Middlebrooks from Red Sox for Ubaldo Jimenez

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    The Red Sox are among the five teams still trying to land Rockies starter Ubaldo Jimenez, and FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi reported Friday that to get Jimenez, the Red Sox would need to part with Kyle Weiland and Double-A third baseman Will Middlebrooks.

    Weiland is 0-1 with an 8.10 ERA in two major league starts. He has shown flashes of major league potential but has not had a dominant start.

    Middlebrooks has shown some power with the Sea Dogs, hitting 22 doubles and 14 home runs while compiling a .528 slugging percentage.

    Jimenez is 6-9 with a 4.20 ERA this season but just 3-1 in his last four starts with a strikeout-walk ratio of 4.14.

    Rosenthal and Morosi wrote that the other teams interested in the 27-year-old righty are the Tigers, Yankees, Reds and Indians.

    Sources told Rosenthal and Morosi that the Tigers would need to give up pitcher Jacob Turner, who is 3-5 with a 3.48 ERA and 90 strikeouts in 113 2/3 innings with Double-A Erie.

    The Yankees would need to part with Ivan Nova (8-4, 4.12 ERA, but has been hampered by an ankle injury), Double-A pitcher Dellin Betances (4-4, 3.20 ERA, 1.13 strikeouts per inning) and Triple-A catcher Jesus Montero (.288, 50 doubles, 31 home runs over last two seasons with Scranton/Wilkes-Barre).

    The Reds might need to give up Yonder Alonso, a first baseman and outfielder who’s batted .296 with 85 extra-base hits and 15 stolen bases over the last two seasons with Triple-A Louisville. Rosenthal and Morosi added that the Rockies would want a major league-ready pitcher from the Reds as well.

    The Indians would have to trade Double-A lefty Drew Pomeranz, who is 3-3 with a 1.98 ERA between Single-A and Double-A this season.

     
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    Re: Rockies reportedly want Kyle Weiland, Will Middlebrooks from Red Sox for Ubaldo Jimenez

    Read that. I would hardly take that blog seriously.  Why would they want far MORE from the Yankees?

    And the trade would likely have already been completed if that's all they wanted from the Sox.
     
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    Do it. 

    Like Middlebrooks...  but 3B is blocked for now and this kid is MLB ready.

    Can't believe that is all that the Rocks are looking for in return.
     
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    In Response to Re: Rockies reportedly want Kyle Weiland, Will Middlebrooks from Red Sox for Ubaldo Jimenez:
    [QUOTE]Read that. I would hardly take that blog seriously.  Why would they want far MORE from the Yankees? And the trade would likely have already been completed if that's all they wanted from the Sox.
    Posted by SleeStack1[/QUOTE]

    Totally agree, Ubaldo would be on a plane, starting tonights game if that deal was offered by Colorado. :)
     
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    [QUOTE]Read that. I would hardly take that blog seriously.  Why would they want far MORE from the Yankees? And the trade would likely have already been completed if that's all they wanted from the Sox.
    Posted by SleeStack1[/QUOTE]

    You are right. I cannot see the Rockies settling for that package from the Sox unless no other teams are interested in Jiminez. I just don't think they would ask for so much from the Yankees and be willing to settle for so much less from the Sox. Doesn't sound right.
     
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    Re: Rockies reportedly want Kyle Weiland, Will Middlebrooks from Red Sox for Ubaldo Jimenez

    along with weiland and middlebrooks, throw in wake; that should get the deal done.

     
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    Re: Rockies reportedly want Kyle Weiland, Will Middlebrooks from Red Sox for Ubaldo Jimenez

    Keep Middlebrooks, Reddick, Doubrount.
     
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    Re: Rockies reportedly want Kyle Weiland, Will Middlebrooks from Red Sox for Ubaldo Jimenez

    For UJ, Bedard or Pence---at this stage and with several teams competing---
    Weiland or Doubrount
    Lavarnmay or Federowicz
    Middlebrooks or Kalish
    Or perhaps some combo with the possibility of Brentz.

    I would like to see them get Pence and Bedard.


     
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    In Response to Re: Rockies reportedly want Kyle Weiland, Will Middlebrooks from Red Sox for Ubaldo Jimenez:
    [QUOTE]Read that. I would hardly take that blog seriously.  Why would they want far MORE from the Yankees? And the trade would likely have already been completed if that's all they wanted from the Sox.
    Posted by SleeStack1[/QUOTE]

    Because the Yankees are the root of all evil and they subscribe to that kind of thing in Colorado. duh
     
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    [QUOTE]For UJ, Bedard or Pence---at this stage and with several teams competing--- Weiland or Doubrount Lavarnmay or Federowicz Middlebrooks or Kalish Or perhaps some combo with the possibility of Brentz. I would like to see them get Pence and Bedard.
    Posted by MadMc44[/QUOTE]


    Or we could just get them ALL! if this is true there are no crossovers and we have a great rotation through 2012! wahahaha screw you other teams!
     
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    Pass! Jimenez isn't worth what they want.
     
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    [QUOTE]Pass! Jimenez isn't worth what they want.
    Posted by tbrod[/QUOTE]

    agree 100%
     
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    [QUOTE]Read that. I would hardly take that blog seriously.  Why would they want far MORE from the Yankees? And the trade would likely have already been completed if that's all they wanted from the Sox.
    Posted by SleeStack1[/QUOTE]That's what I was thinking. If that's all they want, I'd do that deal yesterday.
     
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    [QUOTE]Pass! Jimenez isn't worth what they want.
    Posted by tbrod[/QUOTE]

    great. he'll fit right in with SLACKEY and CRAWFISH who aren't worth what they got.
     
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    Re: Rockies reportedly want Kyle Weiland, Will Middlebrooks from Red Sox for Ubaldo Jimenez

    Is this ubaldo any goode?
     
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    [QUOTE]Is this ubaldo any goode?
    Posted by small-package[/QUOTE]

    well, he's definitely better than WAKE, SLACKEY, and MILLER.
    but that's true of about 90 starting pitchers in the ML.
     
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    Re: Rockies reportedly want Kyle Weiland, Will Middlebrooks from Red Sox for Ubaldo Jimenez

    That could be why Ubaldo is being sought by many teams in MLB. I think that Yazzer is onto something here. He isn't as stupid as he looks. For once he made a smart comment.
     
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    [QUOTE]along with weiland and middlebrooks, throw in wake; that should get the deal done.
    Posted by the_yazzer[/QUOTE]

    ain't gonna happen babe, er yazzer!
     
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    [QUOTE]That could be why Ubaldo is being sought by many teams in MLB. I think that Yazzer is onto something here. He isn't as stupid as he looks. For once he made a smart comment.
    Posted by Your-Echo[/QUOTE]

    well, i'm one up on you then, your-a-ho.
     
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    In Response to Re: Rockies reportedly want Kyle Weiland, Will Middlebrooks from Red Sox for Ubaldo Jimenez:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Rockies reportedly want Kyle Weiland, Will Middlebrooks from Red Sox for Ubaldo Jimenez : ain't gonna happen babe, er yazzer!
    Posted by Hammah29r2[/QUOTE]

    unfortunately, you're probably right GOMER, er hammah!
     
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    Re: Rockies reportedly want Kyle Weiland, Will Middlebrooks from Red Sox for Ubaldo Jimenez

    In Response to Re: Rockies reportedly want Kyle Weiland, Will Middlebrooks from Red Sox for Ubaldo Jimenez:
    [QUOTE]For UJ, Bedard or Pence---at this stage and with several teams competing--- Weiland or Doubrount Lavarnmay or Federowicz Middlebrooks or Kalish Or perhaps some combo with the possibility of Brentz. I would like to see them get Pence and Bedard.
    Posted by MadMc44[/QUOTE]In terms of trade value Middlebrooks and Kalish aren't in the same classification. Middlebrooks appears to be an elite 3B prospect right now. The positional value alone makes him a harder to find, therefore more valuable commodity. And Klish's injury plagued 2011 takes down his value further.

    I think it is very hard to trade the futures that Middlebrooks and Lavarnway present, if you assume that the RS will take the time to make Lavarnway a competent MLB catcher.

    Almost all pitching moves have risk, between catastrophic health issues and the more common health issues that create a slow deteroration of performance. After all guys don't forget how to pitch, their bodies betray them.

    But to me Ubaldo is slightly different, even if you don't consider that there may be an underlying problem that is causing a drop in velocity. And that is his historical on and off issues with command, not control which is throwing strikes but command which is throwing strikes exactly where you want with the spin and movement you want.

    When I look at his contract, the Rox budget, their longer term future based on their roster, I can't figure out why they'd trade this guy unless they question his viability in the long run.

    That said it is a risk I personally as a fan would have no issue if the RS pass on it, even if it puts the WS prospects for 2011 in doubt. There already is a lot of payroll dollars tied up in starting pitchers that won't meet the value their contracts reflect (Lackey, DiceK).  
     
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    Re: Rockies reportedly want Kyle Weiland, Will Middlebrooks from Red Sox for Ubaldo Jimenez

    if that it, theo should drive them to the airport for jimenez!
     
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    Re: Rockies reportedly want Kyle Weiland, Will Middlebrooks from Red Sox for Ubaldo Jimenez

    JUMP ON IT!!!
     
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    Re: Rockies reportedly want Kyle Weiland, Will Middlebrooks from Red Sox for Ubaldo Jimenez

    posted at 7/2

    9/2011 12:23 PM EDTSounds too easy, why has't Theo pulled the trigger on this no brainer
     

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