Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

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    Re: Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

    Even if i believe Shane is better, I would never, ever admit it when you are within cyber earshot.  I will always call Ellsbury a dazzling baseball God, only because your hilarious obsession with him is so much fun to egg on.

             
     
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    Re: Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

    They are different players - they compliment each other well

    I don't think Ellsbury could do Shane's job and I know that Shane can't do Ellsbury's job

     

    Just another idiotic post trying to hang onto your claim that Ellsbury is garbage.......

     
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    Re: Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

    I goes all the way back to Jitterbug Jake and the reverse pivot, and..... wait,  ...why am I feeding this troll?  :-(

    Having the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do.

     
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    Re: Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

    In response to RedSoxFireman's comment:

    I've never said Ellsbury was "garbage". Read the thread, my dear friend.



    "Dilluded"?

    Dude?

    Buy a dictionary. This is getting pathetic.

     
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    In response to S5's comment:

    I goes all the way back to Jitterbug Jake and the reverse pivot, and..... wait,  ...why am I feeding this troll?  :-(

    Having the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do.



    He is amusing. There is no doubt about it.  One of the best trolls ever.

     
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    Re: Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

    In response to RedSoxFireman's comment:

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dillusion



    right. now find one for dilluded.

     
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    Re: Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

    You are not smart.

     
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    Re: Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

    You're diluting your delusions?

     
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    Re: Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

     

     Maybe he posted after popping a handful of dil-Ludes.        
     
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    Re: Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

    In response to RedSoxFireman's comment:

    It's a fact that Shane is a superior baseball player. Look at the numbers!




     

    Since it's a "fact", enlighten us all on what numbers those would be?

     
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    Re: Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

    In response to S5's comment:

    I goes all the way back to Jitterbug Jake and the reverse pivot, and..... wait,  ...why am I feeding this troll?  :-(

    Having the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do.




    HA!!  I think you are feeding him.  I started ignoring him yesterday and I have to say.....why I didn't do that before is beyond me.  I see that he is starting to flood the board however since people are just tired of his childish act.  I recommend people start reporting him...... I swear he and pike share the same basement.....

     
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    Re: Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

    Lets consider the last four years in terms of game played and OPS.

    Player A: 147/.756, 132/.847, 154/.704, 122/.801

    Player B: 18/.485, 158/.928, 74/.682, 134/.781

    Player A is a bit faster; player B has a MUCH better throwing arm. There is just a two year age difference. Player A costs $13M and is signed for just two more years;  Player B is likely to cost $18M or more over at least six years.

    Which is the better deal?

    WE ARE ALL JUST POPPYSEEDS IN THE BAKERY OF LIFE

     
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    Re: Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

    In response to RedSoxFireman's comment:

    Since it's a "fact", enlighten us all on what numbers those would be?

    2013 :           Shane     "Ells"

    OPS              .801          .781

    RBI                  61             53

    HR                   15               9

    FanGraphs Advanced fielding    

    Ranking OF   11th         27th   (Crisp ranked 10th Reddick Ranked 23rd

     

     



    2013 OPS

    Drew .777

    Bogaerts .684

    You are consistently inconsistent.

     
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    Re: Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

    In response to RedSoxFireman's comment:

    Since it's a "fact", enlighten us all on what numbers those would be?

    2013 :           Shane     "Ells"

    OPS              .801          .781

    RBI                  61             53

    HR                   15               9

    FanGraphs Advanced fielding    

    Ranking OF   11th         27th   (Crisp ranked 10th Reddick Ranked 23rd

     

     




    One year sample again, I see.  One comment, Victorino benefits in the RBI total from having Ellsbury on base to knock in.  Ellsbury has basically had Salty, Middlebrooks and Drew.

     

    I don't know anyone who would dispute that Victorino is the superior defender, so no sense even discussing that.  I would submit that Ellsbury is a more disruptive on the bases (not just steals, but the fear of steals)

     

    Career numbers, normalized to 162 games (per Baseball Reference.com):

     

    2013 : Shane       Jacoby

    OPS .774               .789

    RBI 64                       71

    HR 14                        15

    Altogether, not that much different from each other offensively.  Ellsbury is 2 years younger, which is a factor. 

    Rational people would take either one of them on their team.  The Red Sox are lucky enough to have both for now.  However, when it comes to Ellsbury, you are not rational.  You can't even type his name, rather, you refer to him in quotes.  Rather childish.

    Is he worth $20+M  per year.  No, but is any ballplayer?

     

     

     
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    Re: Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

    They are two very good players. It's pathetic the way softy has to continually pit one player against the other.

    Even more pathetic about this thread was that softy was ripping the Victorino signing all year.

     

     
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    If you hadn't noticed the trend, Softy tends to view things through complexion colored glasses.

     

    And just to assuage you Softy, there is every liklihood that Bogaerts will surpass Drew in terms of offensive numbers, perhaps even as early as next year.  But it's not next year right now.

     
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    Re: Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

    I don't think we need to resign Ells. I am sure glad he is on the team right now though.

     
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    Re: Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

    this thread is so terrible i shall make it better:

     
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    Re: Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

    In response to slasher9's comment:

    this thread is so terrible i shall make it better:



    Thanks Slash, this definitley brightens up this otherwise stupid thread!

     
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    Re: Shane Far Superior Player to Ellsbury: Why are Red Sox Fans So Dilluded About Ellsbury?

    In response to slasher9's comment:

    this thread is so terrible i shall make it better:


    Excellent job, dude. Nobody will call her a Star Wars geek.

     

     

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