Re: Should Ben go ?
posted at 10/5/2012 12:26 AM EDT
In response to Alibiike's comment:
In response to carnie's comment:
In response to SpacemanEephus' comment:
I am trying to figure out which of his acquisitions, besides Melancon (who might pan out in the long run, if September is any indication), didn't pan out? Someone panning out implies them not living up to a level of expectation. So, who didn't pan out? Aaron Cook? He had zero expectation. It was a flyer and he was only pressed into action because the rest of the staff was either hurt, terrible, or terrible and hurt. He made small moves, which were all he could do, and made them pretty judiciously in my estimation.
The only real mistake he made was caving on valentine, but, then, i think Lucchino made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
And then, he pulled off an absolute coup in the Dodger trade. Shrewd and gutsy move.
The verdict is still out on young Ben. this off season is the true test. his hands were tied by bloated payroll and the 2011 debacle. No, no more hands tied. Lets see what he can pull off. And try him at the Sox-gallows next year this time.
Blame Bush is getting old. Forget the "hands were tied" excuse as well. Ben had the ability to make trades even if he couldn't spend money. He knew we needed starting pitching going in but gambled with Bard and tried to get reclamation projects for the 5th spot. Championship teams don't do that.
He acquired Marlon Byrd when Ellsbury went down, and Jim Edmonds was available. Then he got shafted when he traded Youk to the WS. The biggest blunder, which most on here still seem to think was brilliant, is trading away Agon, and I still think Crawford woul have come around, he started to before deciding to have surgery.
But, this is what the RS do......give up on players too soon, or trade players that they think will cost them too much money, even though they produce (Beltre, Vmart). He traded Scutaro for I believe, Mortensen, and even though Mortensen pitched pretty well, Scutaro had twice the year Aviles did.
Ben Cherington is as clueless at being a GM, as Obama is at being president.
Jim Edmonds? o.O You mean the 42yr old Edmonds that last played in 2010? Your kidding, right? Tell me your kidding...CC was about to turn things around and earn that 21mm per for the next 5 years? Wow...Just....WOW