Re: Sox & Papi Talking Extension?
posted at 12/16/2013 5:18 PM EST
In response to Bill-806's comment:
In response to solareclipse's comment:
Ortiz was on the market a year ago. There were no takers on any multi-year deal that significantly exceeded the 2 year deal the Red Sox gave him. His extension is the likely extra year deal for 2014 that no other team was likely to go when he was FA last winter.
Ownership has no reason to give an extension when Ortiz is so old that he's in the year to year contract phase of his career and he actually made a mistake by insisting on 2 years because he'd do better in the FA market if he was FA this winter. He's now trying to use 2013 to talk 2015. I don't blame him for trying, but he bet against himself in 2013.
There's no way Ortiz is going to find a 2015 FA market that goes beyond 1 year and about 5 to 10M guaranteed plus max CBA incentives. That is the market, even if he has another 100RBI and 30HR season with the Red Sox. His age and medical history (including the presser on the administrative testing) make this a market reality.
At this point, Red Sox ownership should tell him there is an standing oral agreement, end of 2014, to rollover, year to year, a mutual option for a guaranteed 9 or 10M plus max CBA incentives. They should tell him that they don't have a problem with him checking out the Frank Thomas approach to the end of his career, but should he choose not to do that then they will give him a lifetime services consulting contract that equals any such deals with current Red Sox "legends". If he wants to do one year with the Dark Side and get in the DH wheelchair line, then the lifetime services contract offer is still there when he retires but at a slightly less amount per year.
The Red Sox should have tried to get Ortiz to retire at the end of 2013 and signed him to a 1 year deal that expired year end (They may have), so they could sign a profile like Morales for DH and do a 1 year deal on Konerko and then watch Middlebrooks and Cecchini in 2014 and go into the 2015 FA and trade market without being able to properly plan ahead for Ortiz's departure.
But it is what it is, and the Red Sox are now in the position of going into 2015 with the destinct posssiblity that Napoli will need to DH more because of health and/or a great value and longterm fit option emerges from within (Middlebrooks) or from without in next winter's FA and trade market.
The Red Sox should not roster obligate themselves to Ortiz beyond 2014, under any circumstance. They need to plan ahead and will be able to bring Ortiz back for 2015 unless he just becomes spiteful (in which case it's time to move on and mend the little fence a short time down the road after his Frank Thomas musical chair DFA stage of his career ends on the Varitek and Wakefield and Thomas et al terms).
It's sad that professional athletes making a lot of money playing a kid's game rarely ever go out on top on their own terms. Even Michael Jordan looked like an old fool when he went out there with the Wizards and looked like just another old NBA vet near the end. At some point, wanting to leave the game as a player with the last memories being playing the game at the high level standards should be considered strongly over panhandling for another contract.
Regardless, Red Sox ownership needs to retain full flexibility for the 1B/DH market for 2015.
[/QUOTE]B I N G O THAT !!!! I am afraid that "when the sun finally sets on PAPI" it will get ugly on the way out of town !!!!
If he ended the year without a comtract, there would have been lots of takers this year. Whatever the sox do will be the right choice. I bet Ben waits on this a bit and sees how Ortiz does the first half of 2014.