Re: Sox offer Salty a 2-year deal.
posted at 11/17/2013 7:38 AM EST
In response to moonslav59's comment:
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The Red Sox salvaged Salty from the garbage heap. Nobody wanted him and everyone gave up on him. He was in such dire straits when the Sox got him that he was having trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher...remember?
Salty should get on his knees and thank the Sox for the opportunity to resume his career.
A two year deal is totally fair. The Sox were loyal to him. Shouldn't he show some loyalty to the Sox in return?
He had an issue with his shoulder, thoracic outlet syndrome, and had surgery to fix it. He didnt have the "yipps" as some people believe...
Texas totally blew it with him. They did with all their young catchers including Teagarden and Ramirez at that time. If they actually stuck with him and taught him the position insead of shuffling him to DH/1b and C in MLB and in the minors, they would have had better luck.. That organization handled all their catchers terribly.
With that said, Salty was a Theo guy. I just dont think Ben values him as much as Theo did. They did him a favor in not offering him a QO. He will be paid well and unfortunately it probably wont be in Boston. There are no guarentees with our catching prospects and looking at all the alternatives at the position, I think a deal with Salty should happen here.
The Braves were the first to try Salty at 1B. In 2007, he almost played as much at 1B as catcher that year between the two clubs.
The Rangers only used Salty at 1B that one first year (2007) for 199 innings, then never again.
He only started at DH 4 times for the Rangers, but was bounced back and forth from the minors like a yo-yo.
While all this certainly didn't help Salty's development as a defensive catcher, particularly sitting on the bench, it has "saved his legs", so to speak, so he is not a worn out 28 year old catcher.
Signing Salty to a 4 year deal is certainly not going to happen in Boston, and despite the clowns implying that's what we think might happen, some of us do reserve the right to state our opinions that differ from Ben's.
Salty turns 29 next May. It's a young 29, in terms of wear and tear on his body. He's been on the bench of platooned basically his whole ML career. Signing him to a $38M/4 deal makes sense to me. $9.5M off the luxury limit beats what McCann and Ruiz will probably cost, and if one of our catching prospects proves he's ready, the catching situation in MLB is so dire right now, that teams will be knocking down the door to trade for him at age 30, 31 or 32. Remember guys, VTek did not become the "complete catcher" until about age 31.
Worst case scenarion: Salty becomes a .225 17 HR (.295 OBP) hitter and an average fielding catcher with throwing issues. At worst, we might have to pay a team a couple million to take him via a trade.
Best case scenario: Salty continues to improve, and we get 4 good seasons from him against RHPs, or he improves and we trade him for something very very good as Vazquez, Swihart, Lava and/or Denny make the seemless transition.
I simply don't see the in house options bearing fruit yet. I have been on this board for 2 years saying Lava is not a C prospect. He is a 4A player that at his advanced age still has no value in a platoon situation. Swihart is 175 pounds and has trouble keeping weight on. Denny is 19. Ruiz is 35 and coming off a horrible year including suspension and wants 2/$20.
Salty warts and all doesn't look so bad for the next couple of years in a platoon.