Re: The Moon Rises, Ben Says Moeny is Tight
posted at 12/18/2011 1:43 PM EST
Moon, I have to disagree about the Punto signing.
I didn't say the Punto signing was bad, but rather "questionable". Until I see what we end up spending in total and wh we get for pitchers, and maybe who else we could have gotten with $1-2M more, I will hold off giving my final opinion on Punto. I like Punto a lot, however, my position has been to play Iggy at SS since before we signed Scutaro 2 years ago. I don't care if he hits .200. The runs he saves will make up for it. I realize I am in a distinct minority on that opinion, and I'm Ok with people thinking he should get more experience, but we spent about $8M on this kid, and he's a defensive whizz. End of point. (Let's not argue over it, I've already spent pages defending my position. I'm Ok to just agree to disagree and move on.)
If it lets Iggy stay in AAA getting everyday AB's, then it's worth it. If they wanted to play Iggy at the MLB level, then they should have declined Scoot's option.
I agree, and I'll take it one step further. If Ben is going to refuse to give Iggy serious ML playing time until 2013, we might as well trade him now to a team that will start him in 2012. A team that obviously will place a higher value on him than we are now as our 4th string SS (after Scutty, Punto and Aviles). Plus, many have put Bogaerts above Iggy anyways. I think we could get something very nice for Iggy (and maybe another lower prospect or two).
There's no significant difference between what Lowrie would have made and what Punto is making, and Punto will be cheaper than Lowrie for 2013.
I like Punto better than Lowrie. The only value Lowrie had was his offesne vs LHPs, and if we trade Youk, I'd like him to platoon at 3B. That's not happening. As for the need for Punto, unless they see Punto and Aviles as sharing 4th OF'er duty, something has to give (or be traded).
While I prefer to wait and see how the the entire off season plays out, right now I'm not a fan of the Shoppach signing as I would also prefer to have Lava starting ~80 games at catcher while learning the staff and getting occasional AB's at DH should Ortiz revert to his career averages against LHP's. This would also help Salty stay fresh later in the season. I'm curious to see if Salty will be involved in a trade before the season starts, in which case the Shoppach signing would make more sense, especially if Salty can help bring in another solid pen arm to replace one of Bard/Aceves (I don't think both will end up in the rotation).
I see Lava like you see Iggy. He needs to play 125+ games not 80. That's one reason why, once we signed Papi, I have said trading Salty for equal or better value in pitching, should be strongly considered... so Lava can play 100 games at catcher and 25+ at DH, 1B, or OF. (Shoppach plays the other 62.)