The Tin Drum

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    The Tin Drum

    This an honest attempt to assess Sox at this very moment, 2 games up, tied in lost column ...

    we have to begin realizing that  last road trip was not remarkable: two series lost, one precariously won against bb worst team...it could have been uglier!

    the broader perspective tells that if a collapse is looming, it would be because FO stood put on July 31 in order to save the whole farm, they took a questionable calculated risk... Ill effects are evident... god prove me wrong.

    the foolish philosopy of " we have gone beyond our April expectations, we should be satisfied, wait tll next year...", is just that, a very foolish capitulation that makes you think of the long 86 years pause... 

    but miracles could stlll happen... Other teams might fold...we could have a secret weapon in Buch s refurbished arm... Peddie might behave like third in the lineup hitter... Papi might overcome reasonable fatigue... the Napk risky bet might succeed... Etc etc... We got a lemon, maybe we make a lemonade...

     

     
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    This an honest attempt to assess Sox at this very moment, 2 games up, tied in lost column ...

    we have to begin realizing that  last road trip was not remarkable: two series lost, one precariously won against bb worst team...it could have been uglier!

    the broader perspective tells that if a collapse is looming, it would be because FO stood put on July 31 in order to save the whole farm, they took a questionable calculated risk... Ill effects are evident... god prove me wrong.

    the foolish philosopy of " we have gone beyond our April expectations, we should be satisfied, wait tll next year...", is just that, a very foolish capitulation that makes you think of the long 86 years pause... 

    but miracles could stlll happen... Other teams might fold...we could have a secret weapon in Buch s refurbished arm... Peddie might behave like third in the lineup hitter... Papi might overcome reasonable fatigue... the Napk risky bet might succeed... Etc etc... We got a lemon, maybe we make a lemonade...

     



    PS just one more thing: lets die with boots on...search intensely the waivers market, scan the independent leagues, bring Xander and brad jr Now... In sum, do like Danton: Audacity, Audacity and more Audacity!...

     
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    This an honest attempt to assess Sox at this very moment, 2 games up, tied in lost column ...

    we have to begin realizing that  last road trip was not remarkable: two series lost, one precariously won against bb worst team...it could have been uglier!

    the broader perspective tells that if a collapse is looming, it would be because FO stood put on July 31 in order to save the whole farm, they took a questionable calculated risk... Ill effects are evident... god prove me wrong.

    the foolish philosopy of " we have gone beyond our April expectations, we should be satisfied, wait tll next year...", is just that, a very foolish capitulation that makes you think of the long 86 years pause... 

    but miracles could stlll happen... Other teams might fold...we could have a secret weapon in Buch s refurbished arm... Peddie might behave like third in the lineup hitter... Papi might overcome reasonable fatigue... the Napk risky bet might succeed... Etc etc... We got a lemon, maybe we make a lemonade...

     



    I could've sworn we traded for a pretty good pitcher, at the deadline....

     
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    On July 31, the Sox had the best offense in MLB but needed a starting pitcher, so they traded away a weak hitting but brilliant fielding SS to get him.  Since then the regular SS Drew and the replacement thirdbaseman Middlebrooks have both hit passably well.  The pitching right now is actually pretty good, but the hitting has fallen off.   Still available at AAA is a pretty good but very young righty bat, Bogaerts, who can be called up in a heartbeat. 

    The current regime under John Henry broke the 86 year drought not once, but twice.  So far it is pretty clear they turned this team around (from last year) in record time.  And they are by no means out of this year's pennant race, not with a two game lead. 

     

     
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    This an honest attempt to assess Sox at this very moment, 2 games up, tied in lost column ...

    we have to begin realizing that  last road trip was not remarkable: two series lost, one precariously won against bb worst team...it could have been uglier!

    the broader perspective tells that if a collapse is looming, it would be because FO stood put on July 31 in order to save the whole farm, they took a questionable calculated risk... Ill effects are evident... god prove me wrong.

    the foolish philosopy of " we have gone beyond our April expectations, we should be satisfied, wait tll next year...", is just that, a very foolish capitulation that makes you think of the long 86 years pause... 

    but miracles could stlll happen... Other teams might fold...we could have a secret weapon in Buch s refurbished arm... Peddie might behave like third in the lineup hitter... Papi might overcome reasonable fatigue... the Napk risky bet might succeed... Etc etc... We got a lemon, maybe we make a lemonade...

     

     



    I could've sworn we traded for a pretty good pitcher, at the deadline....


    What did that pretty good pitcher do last night?  Not his fault but thats whats going to happen more often  unless offense gets a major overhaul.....

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    This an honest attempt to assess Sox at this very moment, 2 games up, tied in lost column ...

    we have to begin realizing that  last road trip was not remarkable: two series lost, one precariously won against bb worst team...it could have been uglier!

    the broader perspective tells that if a collapse is looming, it would be because FO stood put on July 31 in order to save the whole farm, they took a questionable calculated risk... Ill effects are evident... god prove me wrong.

    the foolish philosopy of " we have gone beyond our April expectations, we should be satisfied, wait tll next year...", is just that, a very foolish capitulation that makes you think of the long 86 years pause... 

    but miracles could stlll happen... Other teams might fold...we could have a secret weapon in Buch s refurbished arm... Peddie might behave like third in the lineup hitter... Papi might overcome reasonable fatigue... the Napk risky bet might succeed... Etc etc... We got a lemon, maybe we make a lemonade...

     

     



    I could've sworn we traded for a pretty good pitcher, at the deadline....

     

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    Not enough and everybody knows it!...

     
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    On July 31, the Sox had the best offense in MLB but needed a starting pitcher, so they traded away a weak hitting but brilliant fielding SS to get him.  Since then the regular SS Drew and the replacement thirdbaseman Middlebrooks have both hit passably well.  The pitching right now is actually pretty good, but the hitting has fallen off.   Still available at AAA is a pretty good but very young righty bat, Bogaerts, who can be called up in a heartbeat. 

    The current regime under John Henry broke the 86 year drought not once, but twice.  So far it is pretty clear they turned this team around (from last year) in record time.  And they are by no means out of this year's pennant race, not with a two game lead. 

     

    On july 31 it was more than evident there was no one behind Ortiz and that  peddie was and is not A third hitter for a championship winner, on July 31 all competing teams in both league traded at large, Peavy was partally good because of what we gave, but it did not do anything to improve the offense... Not questioning 04 or 07 success, in those times Sox traded big!...

     
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    It seems we could really use a right handed hitter who could make an immediate impact.   Now that the trade deadline is long passed us by where do we get said slugger....Ben??

     
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    I flew in to read an analogy about the Red Sox, a horse head and eels..,,sadly disappointed.

     
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    This an honest attempt to assess Sox at this very moment, 2 games up, tied in lost column ...

    we have to begin realizing that  last road trip was not remarkable: two series lost, one precariously won against bb worst team...it could have been uglier!

    the broader perspective tells that if a collapse is looming, it would be because FO stood put on July 31 in order to save the whole farm, they took a questionable calculated risk... Ill effects are evident... god prove me wrong.

    the foolish philosopy of " we have gone beyond our April expectations, we should be satisfied, wait tll next year...", is just that, a very foolish capitulation that makes you think of the long 86 years pause... 

    but miracles could stlll happen... Other teams might fold...we could have a secret weapon in Buch s refurbished arm... Peddie might behave like third in the lineup hitter... Papi might overcome reasonable fatigue... the Napk risky bet might succeed... Etc etc... We got a lemon, maybe we make a lemonade...

     

     

     



    I could've sworn we traded for a pretty good pitcher, at the deadline....

     

     

     

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    Not enough and everybody knows it!...

     

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    Who else was available? This was the first time since may they lost two series in a row. They still have a larger lead than they left home with. 

     
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    On July 31, the Sox had the best offense in MLB but needed a starting pitcher, so they traded away a weak hitting but brilliant fielding SS to get him.  Since then the regular SS Drew and the replacement thirdbaseman Middlebrooks have both hit passably well.  The pitching right now is actually pretty good, but the hitting has fallen off.   Still available at AAA is a pretty good but very young righty bat, Bogaerts, who can be called up in a heartbeat. 

    The current regime under John Henry broke the 86 year drought not once, but twice.  So far it is pretty clear they turned this team around (from last year) in record time.  And they are by no means out of this year's pennant race, not with a two game lead. 

     

     

     

    On july 31 it was more than evident there was no one behind Ortiz and that  peddie was and is not A third hitter for a championship winner, on July 31 all competing teams in both league traded at large, Peavy was partally good because of what we gave, but it did not do anything to improve the offense... Not questioning 04 or 07 success, in those times Sox traded big!...

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    Peavy is bigger than Eric Gagne and is more talent than anyone acquired in 2004. Acquire the best pitcher on the market is a huge move. There was no righty bat.

     
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    This an honest attempt to assess Sox at this very moment, 2 games up, tied in lost column ...

    we have to begin realizing that  last road trip was not remarkable: two series lost, one precariously won against bb worst team...it could have been uglier!

    the broader perspective tells that if a collapse is looming, it would be because FO stood put on July 31 in order to save the whole farm, they took a questionable calculated risk... Ill effects are evident... god prove me wrong.

    the foolish philosopy of " we have gone beyond our April expectations, we should be satisfied, wait tll next year...", is just that, a very foolish capitulation that makes you think of the long 86 years pause... 

    but miracles could stlll happen... Other teams might fold...we could have a secret weapon in Buch s refurbished arm... Peddie might behave like third in the lineup hitter... Papi might overcome reasonable fatigue... the Napk risky bet might succeed... Etc etc... We got a lemon, maybe we make a lemonade...

     

     

     

     



    I could've sworn we traded for a pretty good pitcher, at the deadline....

     

     

     

     

     



    Not enough and everybody knows it!...

     

     

     



    Speak for yourself.

     

    A rotation of Buchholz, Peavy, Lackey Doubront, Lester is as good as anyones rotation and is also very capable oftaking this team deep ointo the playoffs.

    This offense has been top in MLB. They are plenty capable.

     

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