Re: TIME TO BENCH, DL OR MOVE ELLS TO LEFT: HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO AFFORD THIS GUY NOW?
posted at 8/4/2011 1:50 PM EDT
In Response to Re: TIME TO BENCH, DL OR MOVE ELLS TO LEFT: HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO AFFORD THIS GUY NOW?
[QUOTE]The way to get Ells to bite is to front end the offer. He has not made much so far and wont make that much next year either (for his numbers). Throw a big signing bonus at him. It probably wont be enough to satisfy Bora$ $.
Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]
Glad to see you and others ignored softy's cherry picked drivel Moon.
Ellsbury (age 27 NOT 28
) has slowly improved from age 24-25 (when he was last healthy in 08/09) and is now entering his prime. As we predicted he slowly got better from .280/.335-.300/.355 and now .315/.370... with bonus HR power (I felt he would top out in the 16-21 range, certain fools laughed at that and reality has humilated them)
Frontloading the contract offer is indeed the best plan. He is not a 6-8 million arb guy... more like 8-12 over the next 2 years. but if you make that 14-16, he better start telling his agent to do what HE wants, not what Scott wants.
6 years and that all important 100 million, and he'd be really greedy and/or foolish to say no.
14 and 16 million ages 28 and 29 (when he'd make 10 million less in arb) can't be ignored.
20-20 million ages 30-31... his first 2 FA years he makes the same as CC and no more than he possibly could get in free agency.
18 and 16 million ages 32 and 33. Descending yearly $ that allows Sox to make up some of the extra cash they gave him in 2012/13.
We blew it on Damon, when it would have taken 4/50 to keep him. He would have been 32-35 those years. Ellsbury would only be here through age 33, and certainly a better fielder with more speed than Damon.
Even if he NEVER repeats this season, injury free, we have a guy who will hit over .300 with an OBP in the .360... more than 40 steals and HR totals in the teens. He's an above average CFer. That is about what Crwford was in the years leading up to his crazy deal, and its the WORST CASE of what ells will be till age 32-33.
Or offer him the Torii Hunter 5/90... we get to drop him at age 31, same as we did Damon. And Boras can prob get him another 5/90 at that point.