WELFARE SCHILL files for bankruptcy and has the feds on his case! he owes between 100-500m! should he leave ESPN?

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    Re: SCHILLING wants TAXPAYERS beanballed to bankroll more of his sinking firm, should OBAMA give him a bailout?

    Just out of curiosity, if you give the Bush Administration credit for the increase in domestic oil production, where do you place blame for the stagnant economy?
     
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    Watch what you ask for slomag.  The last poster I asked that of blamed it on Jimmy Carter!!!
     
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    In Response to Re: SCHILLING wants TAXPAYERS beanballed to bankroll more of his sinking firm, should OBAMA give him a bailout?:
    [QUOTE]Just out of curiosity, if you give the Bush Administration credit for the increase in domestic oil production, where do you place blame for the stagnant economy?
    Posted by slomag[/QUOTE]

    I would give Bush credit for the wells and drilling that were approved during his administration and keep in mind that his policies on energy were similar to those of Bill Clinton as indicated from what I've read.

    If anything Obama's policies haven't worked i.e all the spending which I didn't like from the Bush administration either. His energy policies which I have personally followed have gone nowhere in  3 1/2 years.

    New emisions standards in coal fired plants deep sixing the coal industry, coal fired power plants will need to be shut down to satisfy the new EPA standards which means rolling blackouts (in Texas), no new oil refineries, no new nuclear plants built, new auto and truck emission standards putting extra stress on the already stressed auto industry. I've already made my points on what obama has done with domestic oil and natural gas.

    My opinion? Lower the capital gains tax to spur investment, think of what an impact that the 850 billion dollars stimulus would have had if it had been invested into domestic energy putting Americans to work to buy American produced energy.

    Imo getting us off of foreign oil and out of the middle east thus bringing the boys home is more important in the long run than a lot of other places the money was spent.

    Boone Pickens has been on CNBC with Jim cramer a few times proposing "all of the above" which we have in abundance. We are the richest country in the world when it comes to natural resources/energy. Wind and solar I like but it's years away technologywise, we need to use our natural resources to get us to energy independence. The billions and billions we give to the Saudis should be spent here in the USA.

    Get the big rigs converted onto domestic liquified natural gas. UPS is currently in the process of converting it's entire national fleet.

    Obama-care most likely is going down next month which might spur employment, the added costs to employers by Obama-care has had an effect on hiring, most big companies are flush with capital but afraid to hire until Obama-care is out of the way.

    Obama is a leftwing ideologue who wants to turn our society into Sweden this is his baby. Instead he blames the rich and corporations, wall street. We need leadership and we don't have it.

    The top 10% of earners already pay 60% of the taxes close to 50% of population pay no income taxes we need reform to close the loopholes.
     
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    [QUOTE]Watch what you ask for slomag.  The last poster I asked that of blamed it on Jimmy Carter!!!
    Posted by parhunter55[/QUOTE]

    Don't know how old you are but this is the 2nd term of the Carter administration we are living in. I've seen this all before but at least Carter did not employ the politics of division the way this guy has.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: SCHILLING wants TAXPAYERS beanballed to bankroll more of his sinking firm, should OBAMA give him a bailout? : Don't know how old you are but this is the 2nd term of the Carter administration we are living in. I've seen this all before but at least Carter did not employ the politics of division the way this guy has.
    Posted by ThatWasMe[/QUOTE]

    His predecessors (Bush & Cheney) were his best teachers.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: SCHILLING wants TAXPAYERS beanballed to bankroll more of his sinking firm, should OBAMA give him a bailout? : His predecessors (Bush & Cheney) were his best teachers.
    Posted by nhsteven[/QUOTE]

    How long is the blame game going to go on?

    Bush and Cheny's fault, the rich, the greedy investment bankers, wall street, rich corporations.

    This guy had 2 years of complete power with majorities in the house and senate

    The democrat senate has not passed a budget in three years.

    Last week the Senate vetoed Obama's budget 99-0, 2 weeks before the house vetoed it 414-0.

    Not 1 Democrat voted for Obama's budget is that Bush and Cheny's fault?
     
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    Curt Schilling is now an entrepreneur who was a professional baseball player at one time.  He should be left to his own devices to resolve the financial challenges facing his company.  Whatever arrangement he has with the state of Rhode Island for economic support is contractually between him and them.  If his business fails, that's his problem and he loses money.  If it succeeds, he makes money.  Pretty simple economics.   
     
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    [QUOTE]Curt Schilling is now an entrepreneur who was a professional baseball player at one time.  He should be left to his own devices to resolve the financial challenges facing his company.  Whatever arrangement he has with the state of Rhode Island for economic support is contractually between him and them.  If his business fails, that's his problem and he loses money.  If it succeeds, he makes money.  Pretty simple economics.   
    Posted by WilcyMoore[/QUOTE]

    What are you babbling about? Schilling was able to have the state of RI invest taxpayer capital into his company - if the company fails, and it will because the video game market is saturated and changing, then he loses NOTHING...this big blowhard was against Pres Obama saving GM/Chrysler which saved THOUSANDS of jobs but he wants a guaranteed capital via taxpayer $$$$$. A typical Republican hypocrite...run aganist government spending but be the first to have your hand out....and THATWASME, I lost brain cells reading your tripe...please don't even try to discuss politics ever again...
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: SCHILLING wants TAXPAYERS beanballed to bankroll more of his sinking firm, should OBAMA give him a bailout? : What are you babbling about? Schilling was able to have the state of RI invest taxpayer capital into his company - if the company fails, and it will because the video game market is saturated and changing, then he loses NOTHING...this big blowhard was against Pres Obama saving GM/Chrysler which saved THOUSANDS of jobs but he wants a guaranteed capital via taxpayer $$$$$. A typical Republican hypocrite...run aganist government spending but be the first to have your hand out....and THATWASME, I lost brain cells reading your tripe...please don't even try to discuss politics ever again...
    Posted by georom4[/QUOTE]

    I lost brain cells reading your tripe


    A small loss for mankind.

    Good thing Obama didn't save Ford too because they're doing better than GM and Chrysler.

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ford-didnt-take-a-bail-out-and-they-are-doing-better-than-GM-and-Chrysler/143294585689978
     
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    Obama can't bail anyone out. He simply borrows and bills the taxpayers. Get rid of him!
     
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    Now, Oprah Winfrey refuses to campaign for him.  Does that tell you something?

    I'm convinced though that he'll get the Jessie Jackson crowd behind him.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: SCHILLING wants TAXPAYERS beanballed to bankroll more of his sinking firm, should OBAMA give him a bailout? : What difference does it make if the point I made is true? That is Obama has had nothing to do with the current hydrofracking in N. Dakota and Texas on private lands responsible for the current oil boom. The best you guys can do is call me an idealogue. Obviously neither of you have a clue when it comes to domestic energy.
    Posted by ThatWasMe[/QUOTE]look, he's president, so obama gets the credit since you will be quick to give him all the blame if things were negative. whatever happens on his watch, by design or default, he gets credit and blame for. guess what, lockerbie guy finally dies, obama somehow gets credit for that too. osama died on his watch, and addd this dude to that long list as well.  hate you partisan types when your hatred makes you blind to all reality or differences.  bad when nutty dems do it with bush (he actually did some good things and should credit for all of those things directly under his watch) and just as bad when you obama witchhunters do it as well).
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: SCHILLING wants TAXPAYERS beanballed to bankroll more of his sinking firm, should OBAMA give him a bailout? : What are you babbling about? Schilling was able to have the state of RI invest taxpayer capital into his company - if the company fails, and it will because the video game market is saturated and changing, then he loses NOTHING...this big blowhard was against Pres Obama saving GM/Chrysler which saved THOUSANDS of jobs but he wants a guaranteed capital via taxpayer $$$$$. A typical Republican hypocrite...run aganist government spending but be the first to have your hand out....and THATWASME, I lost brain cells reading your tripe...please don't even try to discuss politics ever again...
    Posted by georom4[/QUOTE]+1
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: SCHILLING wants TAXPAYERS beanballed to bankroll more of his sinking firm, should OBAMA give him a bailout? : I would give Bush credit for the wells and drilling that were approved during his administration and keep in mind that his policies on energy were similar to those of Bill Clinton as indicated from what I've read. If anything Obama's policies haven't worked i.e all the spending which I didn't like from the Bush administration either. His energy policies which I have personally followed have gone nowhere in  3 1/2 years. New emisions standards in coal fired plants deep sixing the coal industry, coal fired power plants will need to be shut down to satisfy the new EPA standards which means rolling blackouts (in Texas), no new oil refineries, no new nuclear plants built, new auto and truck emission standards putting extra stress on the already stressed auto industry. I've already made my points on what obama has done with domestic oil and natural gas. My opinion? Lower the capital gains tax to spur investment, think of what an impact that the 850 billion dollars stimulus would have had if it had been invested into domestic energy putting Americans to work to buy American produced energy. Imo getting us off of foreign oil and out of the middle east thus bringing the boys home is more important in the long run than a lot of other places the money was spent. Boone Pickens has been on CNBC with Jim cramer a few times proposing "all of the above" which we have in abundance. We are the richest country in the world when it comes to natural resources/energy. Wind and solar I like but it's years away technologywise, we need to use our natural resources to get us to energy independence. The billions and billions we give to the Saudis should be spent here in the USA. Get the big rigs converted onto domestic liquified natural gas. UPS is currently in the process of converting it's entire national fleet. Obama-care most likely is going down next month which might spur employment, the added costs to employers by Obama-care has had an effect on hiring, most big companies are flush with capital but afraid to hire until Obama-care is out of the way. Obama is a leftwing ideologue who wants to turn our society into Sweden this is his baby. Instead he blames the rich and corporations, wall street. We need leadership and we don't have it. The top 10% of earners already pay 60% of the taxes close to 50% of population pay no income taxes we need reform to close the loopholes.
    Posted by ThatWasMe[/QUOTE]

    Well said!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: SCHILLING wants TAXPAYERS beanballed to bankroll more of his sinking firm, should OBAMA give him a bailout? : What are you babbling about? Schilling was able to have the state of RI invest taxpayer capital into his company - if the company fails, and it will because the video game market is saturated and changing, then he loses NOTHING...this big blowhard was against Pres Obama saving GM/Chrysler which saved THOUSANDS of jobs but he wants a guaranteed capital via taxpayer $$$$$. A typical Republican hypocrite...run aganist government spending but be the first to have your hand out....and THATWASME, I lost brain cells reading your tripe...please don't even try to discuss politics ever again...
    Posted by georom4[/QUOTE]


    If you want to blame anyone blame RI for having a stupid policy.  They offered this money to businesses to lure them away from Mass.  I think anyone would take advantage of this.

    If it had worked RI would be rejoicing but it didn't so they have egg on their face.

    Shilling took capital investment from a state.  Obama is complaining about private capital investment from private investment companies like the one Romney headed.  What would you have Schill do?  Obama is against private investment companies and you're are against state funds.  What's a business person to do LOL!

    I'm a small business and I have definitely seen the negative side of Obama's policies.

    The GPA is destroying small business, have you heard about the tax on farm dust?  Look into it.

    I agree that if a business fails it should file for chapter 11.  I believe that Obama's pet projects shouldn't get special funding either, can anyone say Solyndra?

    Have you heard about the man who has fathered about 30 kids with 11 women?  He wants the government to help him with child support?  The women are probably already on welfare.  Thanks Johnson for "The Great Society"

    Tax and spend, tax and spend.  Obama has added 5 trillion in debt in three and a half years and what do we have to show for it?  Nothing but more debt for our children.

    Do you know how much money is being wasted by Obama.  Some of the stimulus money went to building turtle tunnels in Florida.  Now we need to spend more of our money to teach the turtles how to read ;0)

    Job training is a joke.  Some of that tax money is going for expensive vacations for the managers, the GSA debacle comes to mind.  Some of the money is going to train people who are already employed and some future workers are being trained to sit on a bus all day.  More of our tax dollars wasted.

    This is just the tip of the iceberg.  Maybe RI shouldn't have offered Shill tax dollars but at least they were trying to create jobs.

    Obama's socialist policies have failed so there may be some desperation out there. RI may be so desperate for jobs in their state that they didn't think this policy through.

    I know of some able bodied young women who would rather sit home, watch tv and collect unemployment rather than get a job that is 'beneath them'.

    Below is an amusing video about one of the occupy wall street organizers.  He would rather hang out with those doing drugs and having public s e x rather get a job that pays less than $80,000.00 a year. 

    He would rather take tax payer dollars to pay for his PhD in sociology. That should get him a good job LOL!!!!! He is also living of the sweat of our brows rather than get a real job. He said that was beneath him. 

    The good old socialist, progressive. democrat system.  If you want to complain about wasted tax dollars take a look at Obama's progressive policies.

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/1622159856001/sean-hannity-occupies-the-five
     
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    67 next month when Obama-care goes down we will have bottomed out.

    Obama had an opportunity to be a great President and a great leader but he blew it.

    If he had brought the republicans into the discussion on healthcare and accepted a few of their better ideas, which imo were excellent in attempts in controlling/bringing down costs (tort reform and opening competition between insurance providers for the general public across state lines) he wouldn't have the mess he allowed Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi to create.

    Instead they shoved this bill down our throats claiming that the Republicans had no ideas to contribute, the party of no, while operating behind closed doors writing this monstrosity shutting the Republicans out of the process.

    With Reid-Pelosi and Obama it was never about bringing down the cost of health insurance premiums it was always about getting 30 million more democrats free health insurance on the backs of the American businesses and working taxpayers.

    Obama had a majority in both the House and Senate for the first two years of his Presidency, think of what he could have accomplished with domestic energy.

    The current energy boom just a fraction of what it could be and it goes on inspite of him, Lisa jackson his EPA and all they've done to discourage the use and developement domestically of fossil fuels.

    Now that he needs to be re-elected he plays the politics of class warfare pitting the middle class against the upper class.

    Any one who has taken advantage of this great system we have,  by working hard to get ahead, making personal sacrifices, taking financial risks to do what it takes to succeed are now being called greedy because they aren't forking enough over to finance all his entitlement programs.

    Although the top 10 percent of US wage earners pay 60% of the income tax.

    He will have all of us figthing in the streets before he is finished just so he can be re-elected.

    Despicable behavior by the President of the United States pitting different groups of Americans against each other to serve his own agenda.Pitting the public against US corporations. I've never seen anything like this. A divider not a uniter.

    Blame Bush, blame the rich the corporations and wall street because his policies and all his spending have failed.

    Blame the Republicans for obstructing when Obama had fillibuster proof majorites in both houses of congress for over two years, he could have passed anything he wanted, and since a fillibuster proof Senate.

    Ronald Reagan never had it so good he had to compromise with a democrat congress.

    Obama's own budget voted down by the senate 99-0 the house 414-0 with no democrat votes.

    But in the end he's going down, in November the silent majority will speak.

    My big concern is that the Democrats will try to steal the election which is why the AG Eric Holder is hell bent against voters having to provide picture ID.

    Have you ever heard of such a thing?

    You need a license to fly, to buy alcohol but not vote? The intent quite obvious.

    53,000 dead voters found on the rolls in Florida over the weekend, this is Obama's best shot, the reason the Democrats object to picture ID to vote.

    Votes from the grave, votes from undocumented aliens, anywhere the pander bear Dems can get them.
     
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    best summary of all this from my fave media show..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQRxxd74yCk

    bottom line  to me is that states and governments should not be going to vegas with their money.. you know how government gets money? from US,t he TAXPAYER! they should at best play the role of a facilitator and get a bunch of venture types to hook up with schilly and at best offer a favorable tax relief or tax postponement package, like NY has done for years with the likes of Donald Trump in the form of tax abatements. Government as direct investor is NEVER a great dea.. period. whether they are betting on Solyndra or a Schilll. I love venture capitalists and the private equity industry overall, but I have no beef with Obama skillfully attacking Mr. Romney.

    I do not think a President should come from that industry at this time with that success being his most significant accomplishment. Government rightfully includes many factors that simply will never be tolerated in a business. Government is not a business. Those who can't grasp that are doomed to endless wars and failures. Leave the investing and gambling to the private sector, in the same way those most skilled in the private sector should leave the ways of government and the civic sector to the OBAMAS! I wlove Romney as a boss and industrialist, not as a president or political leader. I love obama as a political leader, not as an industrialist!
     
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    Obama's Bio Grows Even Sketchier

    The Obama Record: The discovery of the president's false book bio claiming Kenyan birth fits an increasingly disturbing pattern. We've long described Obama as radical, but he's also deceitful.

    The mix of these two traits in the Oval Office is toxic. But the Washington media are anything but alarmed, still believing as they do the mythical savior figure they created in 2008.

    The other night, MSNBC's Chris Matthews argued on his "Hardball" show that Americans would be wise to re-elect Obama because he's "the candidate we know." He claimed he's a trusted brand who "is who he seems to be."

    He went on to describe the president as "a fairly pragmatic progressive" and "tough defender of the country." Therefore, he argued, he's the safer choice vs. GOP foe Mitt Romney, whom Matthews warns is an unknown commodity — "Brand X" — who could turn out to be a nutty puppet of the "radical right."

    Of course, Obama isn't at all who he seems to be. And judging from Obama's sinking poll numbers, this is becoming more apparent to the electorate — thanks in part to the new media's revetting of Obama after the old media's half-hearted attempt in 2008.

    Voters who don't watch MSNBC are starting to see that the president's public persona is merely a hologram created by media shills like Matthews, who define his identity and ideology and redefine it when facts disrupt the carefully constructed narrative.

    The latest fly in the ointment for Team Obama is a promotional bio Obama's book agent put out in 1991. The old copy, dug up last week by Breitbart.com, says he was "born in Kenya." Asked about the mistaken birthplace, the agent claimed it "was nothing more than a fact-checking error."

    But that's not just any error. Getting a job title wrong is one thing. But screwing up a client's place of birth is a major — and bizarre — boo-boo.

    More than likely, Obama supplied the error as fact, since the agency requires clients to submit their bio information. Adding to suspicions, Obama failed to correct it. For 16 years. He allowed his agent to continue to publish the error — despite several updates to his bio posted online — until 2007, when Obama ran for the White House and abruptly switched agents. Only then was the bio corrected.

    Why would Obama fictionalize his life story? For answers, let's go back to 1991. At the time he got his book deal, Obama was graduating from Harvard Law School, which required strong grades for entry. Yet by all accounts, Obama had weak grades. Did he juice his application — a la his Harvard law pal, Elizabeth "Cherokee Liz" Warren — to hedge his bet in case his minority status wasn't exotic enough to overcome his grades?

    Northwestern University professor John McKnight said a desperate Obama approached him for a letter of recommendation to Harvard, because he couldn't get any of his undergrad professors to pen one due to underwhelming academics. McKnight was one of Obama's radical Alinsky trainers and a key mentor, but not one of his professors.

    The embellished bio makes the circumstances surrounding Obama's Harvard admission curiouser. And all the more reason to demand this president do what every other modern president has done, including Democrat candidates John Kerry and Al Gore, and turn over his academic records for public review.

    At bottom, this is an issue of trust.

    The notion that his author's bio, which played up high the phony foreign-born status, was simply a typo is about as credible as Obama claiming he never heard his radically anti-American preacher say anything unpatriotic while sitting in his pews for over two decades. Or that he hardly knew his Hyde Park neighbor Bill Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist who launched his political career from his living room. And who sat with him on the board of a few radical organizations. And who claims to have actually written the very memoir Obama and his agent began promoting in 1991.

    Just who is this man sitting in the people's house? Increasingly, he appears devious and dishonest.

    Character matters


    http://news.investors.com/article/612225/201205211900/voters-do-not-know-the-real-obama.htm

     
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    [QUOTE]Obama's Bio Grows Even Sketchier The Obama Record: The discovery of the president's false book bio claiming Kenyan birth fits an increasingly disturbing pattern. We've long described Obama as radical, but he's also deceitful. The mix of these two traits in the Oval Office is toxic. But the Washington media are anything but alarmed, still believing as they do the mythical savior figure they created in 2008. The other night, MSNBC's Chris Matthews argued on his "Hardball" show that Americans would be wise to re-elect Obama because he's "the candidate we know." He claimed he's a trusted brand who "is who he seems to be." He went on to describe the president as "a fairly pragmatic progressive" and "tough defender of the country." Therefore, he argued, he's the safer choice vs. GOP foe Mitt Romney, whom Matthews warns is an unknown commodity — "Brand X" — who could turn out to be a nutty puppet of the "radical right." Of course, Obama isn't at all who he seems to be. And judging from Obama's sinking poll numbers, this is becoming more apparent to the electorate — thanks in part to the new media's revetting of Obama after the old media's half-hearted attempt in 2008. Voters who don't watch MSNBC are starting to see that the president's public persona is merely a hologram created by media shills like Matthews, who define his identity and ideology and redefine it when facts disrupt the carefully constructed narrative. The latest fly in the ointment for Team Obama is a promotional bio Obama's book agent put out in 1991. The old copy, dug up last week by Breitbart.com, says he was "born in Kenya." Asked about the mistaken birthplace, the agent claimed it "was nothing more than a fact-checking error." But that's not just any error. Getting a job title wrong is one thing. But screwing up a client's place of birth is a major — and bizarre — boo-boo. More than likely, Obama supplied the error as fact, since the agency requires clients to submit their bio information. Adding to suspicions, Obama failed to correct it. For 16 years. He allowed his agent to continue to publish the error — despite several updates to his bio posted online — until 2007, when Obama ran for the White House and abruptly switched agents. Only then was the bio corrected. Why would Obama fictionalize his life story? For answers, let's go back to 1991. At the time he got his book deal, Obama was graduating from Harvard Law School, which required strong grades for entry. Yet by all accounts, Obama had weak grades. Did he juice his application — a la his Harvard law pal, Elizabeth "Cherokee Liz" Warren — to hedge his bet in case his minority status wasn't exotic enough to overcome his grades? Northwestern University professor John McKnight said a desperate Obama approached him for a letter of recommendation to Harvard, because he couldn't get any of his undergrad professors to pen one due to underwhelming academics. McKnight was one of Obama's radical Alinsky trainers and a key mentor, but not one of his professors. The embellished bio makes the circumstances surrounding Obama's Harvard admission curiouser. And all the more reason to demand this president do what every other modern president has done, including Democrat candidates John Kerry and Al Gore, and turn over his academic records for public review. At bottom, this is an issue of trust. The notion that his author's bio, which played up high the phony foreign-born status, was simply a typo is about as credible as Obama claiming he never heard his radically anti-American preacher say anything unpatriotic while sitting in his pews for over two decades. Or that he hardly knew his Hyde Park neighbor Bill Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist who launched his political career from his living room. And who sat with him on the board of a few radical organizations. And who claims to have actually written the very memoir Obama and his agent began promoting in 1991. Just who is this man sitting in the people's house? Increasingly, he appears devious and dishonest. Character matters http://news.investors.com/article/612225/201205211900/voters-do-not-know-the-real-obama.htm
    Posted by ThatWasMe[/QUOTE]

    Very well researched. Obama did drugs and received bad grades and the media is silent.

    Bush did drugs and received mediocre grades. The press was all over him by calling him stupid and by saying he committed a felony.  The progressive left wing press strikes again.

    Obama wasn't properly vetted by anyone so now all the hidden truths about him are coming out.  Chris Matthews is delusional. How can he possibly say we should stick with a president we know?  The American people have no idea who this progressive president is.

    Everyone should read 'The Roots of Obama's Rage'.   When Obama became president one of the first things he did was to send a bust of Churchill back to England. I found that to be odd.

    After reading the book I understood why the president would offend our stanchest friend.

    Obama's grandfather was tortured by the British when he lived in Kenya.  It seems Obama is still holding a grudge.  His personal life shouldn't effect his presidency.

    There are a lot of interesting facts in that book.  Frank Davis, the mentor Obama so fondly writes about in his book "Dreams From My Father", was a communist.  He also wrote a hard core pornographic novel.  Is this the kind of person you want mentoring your kid?

    If we have four more years of this man we won't recognize the country we once knew.
     
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    [QUOTE]Just out of curiosity, if you give the Bush Administration credit for the increase in domestic oil production, where do you place blame for the stagnant economy?
    Posted by slomag[/QUOTE]

    Have you heard of Freddy Mac, Fanny Mae and Barney Frank?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: SCHILLING wants TAXPAYERS beanballed to bankroll more of his sinking firm, should OBAMA give him a bailout? : Have you heard of Freddy Mac, Fanny Mae and Barney Frank?
    Posted by 67redsox[/QUOTE]

    So your answer is George Bush gets credit for an increase in domestic oil production, and Barney Frank gets the blame for the stagnant economy?  Sounds fair and balanced to me.
     
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    Re: SCHILLING wants TAXPAYERS beanballed to bankroll more of his sinking firm, should OBAMA give him a bailout?

    Schilling may in fact be a blowhard hypocrite, but I will give him this........

    Looks like he's convinced a lot of people on the Left (many on this board) that guaranteed loans for risky ventures is ill advised at best.  So funny that Obama pumping 100's of billions of $$$ into failed renewable energy, while hamstringing cost efficient energy DOMESTIC ENERGY (thus actually creating 100's of thousands of jobs), didn't help them see the light????

    GWB />  almost $5 TRILLION added to the debt in 8 years.

    Obama />  "These deficits are immoral!!!!"

    Obama />  Has added almost $6 TRILLION in debt in 3 1/2 years.

    Hmmmm????

    Afghanistan />  Still the "GOOD WAR?"   Come on fellas!  Wake up!

    GWB >  Turned out to be a disastrous president!

    Obama????   Come on ladies!  Drop your skirts & admit..............

    THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES!

    Just a little bit of non-ideological honesty ladies!  Sack up!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: SCHILLING wants TAXPAYERS beanballed to bankroll more of his sinking firm, should OBAMA give him a bailout? : So your answer is George Bush gets credit for an increase in domestic oil production, and Barney Frank gets the blame for the stagnant economy?  Sounds fair and balanced to me.
    Posted by slomag[/QUOTE]

    Bush was a moron!  Well intentioned maybe, but a moron none the less!

    Having said that, IT ABSOLUTELY WAS the Liberal Democrats, primarily Barney Frank & Chris Dodd, who FORCED lending institutions to DESTROY lending requirements, thus causing the toxic loans & the mortgage crisis.  p.s. It's still not over.........  You can add GWB to the list of naive politicians who bought into the "give everybody & their poor uncle Joe a mortgage, & we'll all be happy crowd who caused this CRISIS!

    Come on ladies!  WAKE UP!  TRY!  JUST TRY......  To do a bit of independent, non-ideological, non-partisan THINKING!

    Otherwise you just sound like another ignorant political hack!  BOTH SIDES!  Far Left & Far Right!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: SCHILLING wants TAXPAYERS beanballed to bankroll more of his sinking firm, should OBAMA give him a bailout? : So your answer is George Bush gets credit for an increase in domestic oil production, and Barney Frank gets the blame for the stagnant economy?  Sounds fair and balanced to me.
    Posted by slomag[/QUOTE]

    The housing crash was a major player in the downward movement in the economy under Bush.  You can blame much of that on Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac.

    While those agencys were floundering good old Barney said they were healthy and that everything was fine.  If you would like to know more about the situation google it.

    “Thank you President Bush — your policies are working.

    “We rely on less foreign oil today because of a drilling boom on state and private property – not federally-controlled land. According to data from the Department of Interior, production on federal lands fell by double digits between 2010 and 2011, with natural gas dropping 11% and oil nearly 14%.

    George W. Bush (AP Photo/Haraz N. Ghanbari)

    “It was President Bush who ended the moratorium on offshore drilling and expanded federal leasing. At the start of the Obama administration, the entire Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) was open to leasing. The administration’s new plan, however, closes the vast majority of the OCS. So thank you President Bush for helping America to reduce our reliance on foreign oil. If the Obama Administration would get out of the way, we could cut our imports from the Middle East even more.”

    Obama closed most if not all of the off shore drilling when he took office.  You can thank Obama for the high gas prices, his policies are failing.




    hehttp://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/bush-vs-obama-on-gasoline-prices-in-one-very-simple-picture/

     
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    Re: SCHILLING wants TAXPAYERS beanballed to bankroll more of his sinking firm, should OBAMA give him a bailout?

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: SCHILLING wants TAXPAYERS beanballed to bankroll more of his sinking firm, should OBAMA give him a bailout? : So your answer is George Bush gets credit for an increase in domestic oil production, and Barney Frank gets the blame for the stagnant economy?  Sounds fair and balanced to me.
    Posted by slomag[/QUOTE]

    Let me explain the hypocrisy here.

    The man has been President for 3 1/2 years in which time he hasn't been able to pass a budget with a fillibuster-proof Democrat majority in both houses for the first two years and in the senate for his entire Presidency, yet he and his goons continue to blame his predecessor for the sour economy.

    Yet he travels around the country proclaiming that domestic energy production is up from the Bush years which is true but because of the permits issued during the Bush Presidency and the drilling currently going on on private lands which do not require his permission.

    He and his EPA have done all they can do to inhibit, discourage and shutdown drilling for the past 3 1/2 years.

    But obama knowingly misleads the public with the help of his friends in the liberal media in deceitfully claiming or implying that his adeministration and policies are responsible for the increased production when nothing could be further from the truth..

    And I don't ever remember Ronald Reagan running down Jimmy carter or his administration not one time even though when he took office the country was in deep stagflation the prime lending rate at 21.5 percent, try and pay for a house with those rates.

    Obama is a community organizer with no business experience, never owned or ran a company never had to meet a payroll but listening to him you'd think otherwise, the truth of the matter is he can't get his own budget passed mainly because the man will not lead he will not compromise.
     

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