Re: What's the infatuation with Upton?
posted at 1/14/2013 5:05 PM EST
In response to Hfxsoxnut's comment:
In response to moonslav59's comment:
Oh! But he strikes out too much! (About 1 every 3 ABs. (Mind you, I could care less for K's, but I have heard many here bash non Ben acquired players for high K rates.)
I'd love to have Stanton and would trade a lot for him. I wouldn't view him as trading the farm for, since in a way, he is the farm. Teams wait decades to get someone like him off their farm.
I noticed that although I said list "some players", you listed one. That kind of makes my point about how every player has "red flags". Miggy? (lots to mention)
It's just my opinion but I see multiple red flags with Upton and not just in his numbers or skills.
1) Road numbers. Which are not just in parks like the Dodgers and the Giants. In 9/15 or 60% of the NL parks he has a sub-700 OPS.
Pitt (59 PA's) 699
LA (182) 689
SF (170) 680
Hou (37) 641
Mil (72) 630
Cin (62) 591
StL (69) 562
Wash (45) 526
Chi (66) 417
2) Shoulder injury.
Small sample sizes on many of those parks, but I do agree his road OPS is a concern (or red flag). My point has been that everyone has a red flag or more, and most with just a few flags are not available or would cost even more than Upton.
His shoulder injury should not be long-lasting, but I am not his doctor. Of course, he'd have to pass the physical before the trade is completed.
Attitude is not a major concern to me.
Fit? We need a middle of the order hitter. We need an OF'er, at least in LF. He can play there if need be.
I realize he is not a perfect player, but we need to make major improvements that also gear towards 2014 and 2015. I don't see many other impact players being shopped right now.
I have agreed I would not give up 2 of the 3 killer B's for him, so I do not think I am far apart from many of your feelings here.
BTW, some other road OPS (small sample sizes)
Boston (20) 1.050
Det (28) .789
KCR (39) 1.007
Mia (19) .806
Oak (26) .819
SDP (164) .901
SEA (12) 1.227
TB (12) 1.667
Maybe he can help us hit in Oak & Sea- places we stink at the plate.