Re: why cant we sign Ells?
posted at 1/22/2012 7:58 AM EST
In Response to Re: why cant we sign Ells?
[QUOTE]CF is an important position--next season the Braves Michael Bourn will be a FA--he settled for a little less than Ells in arb this week. He's a pretty talented player, good defense, good speed--to me the major difference is Ells power, at least in 2011, and about 30 points higher in BA. Stolen bases about the same. In fact, if you play around with the numbers and the offensive weapons for the Sox, Bourn might be just as productive except for the power. I would think he could be locked up for maybe $10-12 M for 5 years--which is about $6-8 M less than what Boras is thinking but for 8-10 years for Ells. If you offered Ells $16 M for 6 years, with a $4 M bonus today, an even $100 M-- beginning after his 2012 contract expires--I've got to believe if he turns that down--you want to enter into serious trade talk for him and move him between now and Opening Day. I might give Ells the courtesy of asking who he might like to traded to--give me five teams in the order of interest: Seattle I think might be in the five. I would trade him for Ichiro and Furbush. Philly--even up for Hamels. Yankees---Pineda or Nava plus Gardner and Nunez. Rangers--Murphy and Harrison or Lewis Dodgers--Ethier and a good pitching Prospect--Maj. League experience. That would be the end of it. Remember Nomar turned down $48 M--it wasn't long after that he was traded to the Cubs.
Posted by MadMc44[/QUOTE]
Turned down 4/64, held out for 68 if memory serves. Ended up signing a 1/10 the following year, and I don't believe more than 5per any other. One of the dumbest decisions I'm aware of any player ever making. Greedy, stupid, ill-informed and got what he deserved the whiny, little, spoiled baby.
I say field offers, and see what you can get for him. 2 years ago I was thinking Ells/Kemp straight up, I still like it now, but less so with Kemp on the books for 20 per over 8 more years.
Many teams would love to have Ellsbury, and at the deadline, or more likely next winter, teams would get into a bidding war. I'd be looking for a Ricky Romero type pitcher to head the package (young, good K numbers, proven in AL East) that included another decent to good prospect or 2.
I would not be happy to see the Sox deal him for a package of 4-5 prospects as low as single-A. I'd want more surety than that.