Re: Why does every conversation about David Ortiz have to be so venomous (on both sides)?
posted at 2/2/2014 5:40 PM EST
In response to redsoxdirtdog's comment:
In response to moonslav59's comment:
"Racism is dead, because you all said so."
Ah! Right there
I'm living in Texas. You all does not mean everyone.
Can you name other times I have cried racism behind every shadow?
Other than a few times with softy over the years, and once or twice about the Tommy Harper situation, I barely speak of it.
You can look, but you won't find it.
Look, you can go on believeing that none of this or even part of this whole thing is racially motivated. That's your right. It's not racism to deny that some here are at least partially racially motivated, but it's my opinion it is being short-sighted.
Look moon. We probably agree on the majority of your macro analysis of racism, visa vi "soft & hard core, implicit vs. Explicit" racism in THE U.S. 2000's 》》. Nobody is going to argue your macro analysis. What sparks a nerve, is your implicit condemnation of those who are sick & tired of Papi's negotiating style year in & year out. I happen to disagree with them, & think Papi has an excellent opportunity to use public support given the fact that he was once again THE DRIVING FORCE behind yet another WS Campionship. Are there likely a hand full of racists who oppose him consciously or unconsciously on racial grounds? Of course! The only problem I have with you is that your condemnation was definitively implicitly broader than the handfull. & the subsequent condemnations of others who are like minded, attacking BOSTON & more broadly MASS were never corrected by you. I get tired of liberals from other states, especially from states with far bigger racial tensions, playing the old saw about pre-1980's Boston race relations as though that is the way things still are in New England, Boston, Mass, etc.... perhaps you could tone down the blanket statements? If you want to talk about anywhere in the U.S. we probably agree on most of your points. Not all, but most. I do appologize for the "behind every shaddow" comment, as that was with respect to this thread only.
Thanks, and I apologize for my wording that appeared to lump everyone fed up with Papi's contractual antics as being based in racism.
I do think the venom spewed by some here against Papi is out of proportion to his deeds off season. To me, if any player in the history of Red Sox Nation deserves to ask for an extension, it is Papi this winter. That's what surprises me most about the 3-4 threads, the lengths of the threads, and the amount of anti-Papi venom in those threads.
Papi is a Red Sox legend. He has a unique personality that is not all about greed or selfishness, and personally, I think it isn't even a significant part of who he is.
BTW, racism is everywhere to varying degrees. Boston is no more racist that Sugar Land, Texas as far as I can tell.