With all the leverage the Red Sox have and the minimal leverage Boras has, what would you offer Drew?

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    Re: With all the leverage the Red Sox have and the minimal leverage Boras has, what would you offer Drew?

    I think that the Sox are in a great position.  Having Drew on the roster in 2014 is a huge plus (whether you like him or not) UNLESS they trade one of their starters not named Ryan Dempster.

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    The Sox keep Drew on a 1-year deal.  He is likely signed for short money (8-11 MM) and we have great depth on the left side of the infield.  If he plays terrific, then just qualify him for 2015 and either sign him for another year or take the draft pick.  As Moon has pointed out, this may allow the Sox to keep Bogaerts for another season on the back end of his arbitration years when Xander is in his prime.  When Bogaerts IS brought up, he will be able to settle into the majors at a less demanding defensive position and that should only help with his hitting.

     

    The Sox let Drew go.  Bogaerts and Middlebrooks will be able to showcase their skills from the beginning of 2014 and the Sox will perserve their starting pitching depth (unless a great deal is on the table).  The Sox get a top 37 pick in a loaded 2014 MLB draft with the additional slot $$ for (possibly) paying multiple drafted players.

     


    The Sox sign Drew for multiple years.  Most unlikely scenario and my least favorite option.  BUT, maybe the Sox have decided that Bogarts is just not a SS.  So, keep Bogaerts at 3B, have a very good defensive SS next to him for the forseeable future and keep WMB as great depth and (possibly) Mike Napoli's future replacement or a valuable trade chip.

     

    I would prefer option #2 (let him sign elsewhere and take the pick), but I am slowly coming around to option #1 (sign him for one year).  I think that he ends up signing with the Sox for more that last year ($9.5 MM), but less than the $14 MM QO.  I think that it will be a $10 - $11 MM, 1-year deal.  I think that unless WMB bombs in ST or in April AND May, then Bogaerts starts the season in Pawtucket and will be called up right after the Sox get an additional year of team control (June of 2014).

     
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    Re: With all the leverage the Red Sox have and the minimal leverage Boras has, what would you offer Drew?

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    Another idea might be (assuming his highest offer elsewhere is $7M/1) to offer him $8M with incentives that could bring him to $9-11M.

    If it comes down to the Red Sox and the Mets, and if a draft pick indeed has a quantifiable value, the Sox could be justified in offering Drew less than what the Mets offer, assuming all other factors are equal.

    By re-signing Stephen Drew, the Red Sox would effectively "lose" the sandwich-round draft pick, currently at No. 33, that accrued when Drew declined the qualifying offer. If the Mets sign Drew, they would forfeit only their third-round pick, currently at No. 85, because their first-round pick is protected and their second-round pick was forfeited with the signing of Curtis Granderson.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2014/order.jsp

    I'm uncertain of the difference in value between the No. 33 pick and the No. 85 pick, but the disparity could be substantial.

     
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    Another idea might be (assuming his highest offer elsewhere is $7M/1) to offer him $8M with incentives that could bring him to $9-11M.

    If it comes down to the Red Sox and the Mets, and if a draft pick indeed has a quantifiable value, the Sox could be justified in offering Drew less than what the Mets offer, assuming all other factors are equal.

    By re-signing Stephen Drew, the Red Sox would effectively "lose" the sandwich-round draft pick, currently at No. 33, that accrued when Drew declined the qualifying offer. If the Mets sign Drew, they would forfeit only their third-round pick, currently at No. 85, because their first-round pick is protected and their second-round pick was forfeited with the signing of Curtis Granderson.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2014/order.jsp

    I'm uncertain of the difference in value between the No. 33 pick and the No. 85 pick, but the disparity could be substantial.

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    How'd you come up with the #33 pick?

     
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    Re: With all the leverage the Red Sox have and the minimal leverage Boras has, what would you offer Drew?

    Mets Don't Want To Go Beyond One Year For Drew By  Charlie Wilmoth [January 5, 2014 at 9:39pm CST]

    The Mets don't want to offer Stephen Drew a deal of more than one year, New York Daily News' Andy Martino writes. It's mostly Scott Boras, rather than the Mets, initiating contact between the two sides, and Martino reports that the Mets could attempt to wait Drew out, hoping to sign him cheaply later in the offseason.

    Martino also suggests Drew's medicals could be an issue, although it's unclear exactly what that might mean. Drew missed three weeks with a hamstring injury last season, although he played well after he returned. He also missed significant chunks of the 2011 and 2012 seasons with an ankle injury.

    Drew hit .253/.333/.433 for the Red Sox last season, and there are a number of teams he should be able to help. Many of those teams prefer to use their own younger shortstop options, however, and the fact that Drew declined a qualifying offer appears to be hurting his market. The Mets' first-round pick is protected, however, and they already gave up their second-round pick to get Curtis Granderson, so they would only have to sacrifice a third-round pick if they signed Drew.

     
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    The Teams That Could Use Stephen Drew The Most By  Tim Dierkes [January 3, 2014 at 5:20pm CST]

    Agent Scott Boras has a quality starting shortstop on his hands in free agent Stephen Drew.  Drew, 31 in March, bears the stigma of costing a draft pick to sign.  But in 2013 for the Red Sox, he hit .253/.333/.443 in 501 plate appearances and was worth 3.4 wins above replacement according to FanGraphs.  That tied for eighth-best in baseball among shortstops.

    If you are a believer in projection systems, Drew will not be a top ten shortstop in 2014.  Using an average of projected 2014 WAR from Steamer, Oliver, and where available, ZiPS (all from FanGraphs), Drew ranks 23rd among starting shortstops with 2.0.  Starlin Castro andJose Iglesias rank below Drew, but they are close enough that he wouldn't be a clear upgrade.  We're left with six starting shortstops on whom Drew would be an upgrade, based on these projections: Jonathan Villar of the Astros, Derek Jeter of the Yankees, Ruben Tejada of the Mets, Pedro Florimon of the Twins, Alcides Escobar of the Royals, andAdeiny Hechavarria of the Marlins.  Let's look at each situation individually.

    • Astros: The Astros want to see what Villar, 23 in May, can do over the course of a full season.  The Astros viewed the outfield as a place to potentially add a hitter, so they acquired Dexter Fowler in December.  They also picked up first baseman/left fielderJesus Guzman in another trade that month.  For the Astros to displace Villar and give up the #33 pick in the draft, Drew would have to come at an extreme bargain.  The Astros do not look like a fit, even if Drew would give them an extra win in 2014.
    • Yankees: GM Brian Cashman told Peter Gammons in late December his team won't be signing Drew, which is a fairly rare comment on a specific free agent.  Drew would only cost the #53 pick in the draft.  But even if it makes some sense in a spreadsheet, adding him as insurance for Jeter could be controversial.  Plus, the Yankees made a large commitment to Jeter and have more pressing needs right now.
    • Mets: One rival GM thinks the Mets are feigning disinterest in Drew, according to Gammons, as he would be an upgrade on Tejada.  Drew makes a ton of sense for the Mets, who would only have to surrender the #82 draft pick.  The Mets are by far the best match for Drew.
    • Twins: The Twins have spent $86.75MM on four free agents so far this winter, with 97% of that going toward pitching.  Their draft pick cost would be #43, and I don't see why they wouldn't give Drew serious consideration.  However, they seem set with Florimon.
    • Royals: The Royals have spent big on free agents Omar Infante and Jason Vargasthis winter, but don't seem interested in upgrading on Escobar even if they could afford Drew.
    • Marlins: The Marlins have added four position players through free agency this winter, but they seem set with Hechavarria manning shortstop for years to come.

    What about Drew's old team, the Red Sox?  He may have less than 100 big league plate appearances to his name, but 21-year-old phenom Xander Bogaerts projects to be better than Drew in 2014.  Re-signing Drew would mean not receiving a supplemental first round pick for losing him, so there is a cost in that regard.  Drew makes sense if the Red Sox are wary of using Bogaerts and Will Middlebrooks as their starters on the left side of the infield, though.

    It seems the Mets and Boras will continue to play chicken regarding Drew, but GM Sandy Alderson does have the upper hand in that no other suitor is emerging.  It seems to be the right time for a Mystery Team to step in.  One Hail Mary option for Boras could be to market Drew as a potential second or third baseman in 2014, for teams with entrenched shortstops.  Once again, Boras is tasked with pulling a rabbit out of his hat on a free agent client.  

     
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    Mets Front Office Divided On Stephen Drew By  Zach Links [January 5 at 12:16pm CST]

    The Mets remain engaged with agent Scott Boras about free-agent shortstop Stephen Drew, but a source familiar with the process tells Adam Rubin of ESPNNewYork.com that Drew is more of a "possibility" than a "probability" for them.  Team officials are divided about how valuable Drew would be to the Mets.

    The Mets would be more willing to consider a one- or two-year deal for Drew at the right price but don't want to go to three years or beyond.  Andy Martino of the Daily News (onTwitter) gets the sense that the Mets have a strong reluctance towards offering anything more than one year.  However, Rubin writes that if Drew were to accept a shorter-term deal, the feeling is that it would be with the Red Sox.  Because of that, some Mets officials are wary that Boras is using them to drive up the price in Boston. MLBTR's Tim Dierkes recently explored possible destinations for the 14th-ranked player on MLBTR's 2014 Top 50 Free Agents list including the Astros, Yankees, Twins, Royals, and Marlins, in addition to the Mets and Red Sox.

    A team insider tells Rubin that he doesn't think the Mets would need to shed payroll in order to free available space for Drew.  It also helps that their first-round pick is protected. The Mets have already forfeited their second-round draft choice for signing Curtis Granderson, so inking Drew would cost them their third-round selection and its assigned slot-value, something, according to Rubin, they are not totally averse to considering.  

    The club has made it known that they're comfortable with using Ruben Tejada at shortstop, a revelation that was surprising given his recent history with the Mets.  The Mets always recognized that he has talent, but his work ethic and motivation was repeatedly called into question in 2013. 

     
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    Poll: Which Team Will Sign Stephen Drew? By  Charlie Wilmoth [January 5 at 7:09pm CST]

    On Friday, MLBTR's Tim Dierkes looked at where free agent shortstop Stephen Drew could help the most, including teams like the Astros, Marlins, Twins, Royals and Yankees. In the comments, a reader added the Athletics as a team that might make sense, with Drew taking over at shortstop at Jed Lowrie moving to second base.

    Just because a player might be able to help a given team doesn't mean that team will sign him, however. The Yankees, for example, have said they're not interested in Drew. And teams like the Twins and Pirates, who might otherwise be able to use Drew, appear set to go with internal options (Pedro Florimon and Jordy Mercer, respectively) rather than signing Drew and giving up a draft pick to get him. As a result, the market for Drew doesn't appear to be particularly strong.

    Since Friday, we've heard that the Mets, who would represent a potential fit for Drew, are "divided" on how valuable he would be to them. The Mets are the team most consistently connected to Drew, but reports on the intensity of their interest vary, and they could easily simply go with Ruben Tejada and address the shortstop position later if he doesn't work out. There's also the chance that Drew could re-sign with the Red Sox, who could move Xander Bogaerts to third base and Will Middlebrooks to the bench. All sorts of dark-horse teams could sneak in as well, with the stable potentially expanding if teams decide Drew could play second base or third base for them.

    Right now, it appears that the Red Sox and Mets are the only significant suitors. If the market is going to widen much beyond those two teams, Scott Boras may have to get creative. So just for fun, we'll include every team in the poll. Regardless of who needs him the most, who do you think will sign Drew?

     
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    Re: With all the leverage the Red Sox have and the minimal leverage Boras has, what would you offer Drew?

    In response to moonslav59's comment:

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    Another idea might be (assuming his highest offer elsewhere is $7M/1) to offer him $8M with incentives that could bring him to $9-11M.

    If it comes down to the Red Sox and the Mets, and if a draft pick indeed has a quantifiable value, the Sox could be justified in offering Drew less than what the Mets offer, assuming all other factors are equal.

    By re-signing Stephen Drew, the Red Sox would effectively "lose" the sandwich-round draft pick, currently at No. 33, that accrued when Drew declined the qualifying offer. If the Mets sign Drew, they would forfeit only their third-round pick, currently at No. 85, because their first-round pick is protected and their second-round pick was forfeited with the signing of Curtis Granderson.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2014/order.jsp

    I'm uncertain of the difference in value between the No. 33 pick and the No. 85 pick, but the disparity could be substantial.

    How'd you come up with the #33 pick?

     

    If Stephen Drew signs elsewhere, the Red Sox get a compensatory sandwich-round draft pick, currently immediately following the No. 32 pick:

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2014/order.jsp

    If Drew re-signs with the Red Sox, the Sox "lose" that draft pick.

     
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    How'd you come up with the #33 pick?

     

    If Stephen Drew signs elsewhere, the Red Sox get a compensatory sandwich-round draft pick, currently immediately following the No. 32 pick:

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2014/order.jsp

    If Drew re-signs with the Red Sox, the Sox "lose" that draft pick.

     

    Thanks, hill.

    So, it appears it could drop down 4 picks, if Morales, Santana, Cruz & Jimenez all sign with teams that have protected picks or have already lost their first pick.

     

    At best we could have:

    #24 (if all 4 free agents sign with teams that would lose a 1st rounder)

    #32 (for Ellsbury) 

    #33 (for Drew)

       Could our #32 and #33 picks move up if, for instance, Morales signed with Baltimore (they lose the #17 pick), but then Seattle signs Cruz and loses their comp pick.

     

    At worst we will have:

    #28

    #36

    #37

     

    Have I missed something?

     
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    Re: With all the leverage the Red Sox have and the minimal leverage Boras has, what would you offer Drew?

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    I hold no grudge against Drew for turning down the QO. He signed a one year deal with the Red Sox to prove that he was injury free and that he could still play. He did a great job for the Sox last season, and was worth his contract.  He earned his right to test the market and look for a long term deal.

    There's no need to offer him the QO amount of $14 mil, but there is also no reason to insult him.  I did not like the way the FO treated Varitek when he turned down arb and ended up signing with the Sox for significantly less.  I hope this does not happen with Drew.

     

     



    Completely agree! After everything Varitek meant to the Sox over so many years that was pretty tough to watch play out. In his case, I think there should have been a more respectful way of ending his career. He deserved that.

     

     
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    Re: With all the leverage the Red Sox have and the minimal leverage Boras has, what would you offer Drew?

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    I hold no grudge against Drew for turning down the QO. He signed a one year deal with the Red Sox to prove that he was injury free and that he could still play. He did a great job for the Sox last season, and was worth his contract.  He earned his right to test the market and look for a long term deal.

    There's no need to offer him the QO amount of $14 mil, but there is also no reason to insult him.  I did not like the way the FO treated Varitek when he turned down arb and ended up signing with the Sox for significantly less.  I hope this does not happen with Drew.

     

     



    Completely agree! After everything Varitek meant to the Sox over so many years that was pretty tough to watch play out. In his case, I think there should have been a more respectful way of ending his career. He deserved that.

     

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    In the business that is baseball all parties the clubs, players and thier agents all understand the rules of engagement. In the case of Varitek, it was he and Scott Boras's decision to turn down the qualifying offer and test the market. The same is true in the Drew case. Varitek and Boras made a calculated decision and collectly both overvalued the damamnd for a player who skills had diminished to the point where his market value was that of a backup and not worthy of a team surrendering a draft pick and signing to a multi-year contract. lets be clear the Sox made him an offer before the dealine, one that would have let him retire a Sox with terms greater than he eventually signed for. 

    Currently Drew is in much the same position, in that the demand for his services is such that he'll likely have to settle for much less than he could have made had he simply accepted the qualifier. Again the Red Sox are not the bad guys here. Drew and Boras made a choice to test free agency based on thier perception of the players skills and his marketability. Boras knows that in the end even he is dependent one or two clubs having placed the same value on one of his clients. It is that interest that sets the market, from there, the terms and compensation are  also market driven but are also negotiable. 

    Free agency has now become somewhat of a gamble in that teams are more protective of thier draft picks and while the top two or three guys will continue to get paid...it's the second tier guys who still come with draft compensation attached who will struggle to get multi year deals. 

     
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    Re: With all the leverage the Red Sox have and the minimal leverage Boras has, what would you offer Drew?

    Completely agree! After everything Varitek meant to the Sox over so many years that was pretty tough to watch play out. In his case, I think there should have been a more respectful way of ending his career. He deserved that.

    I thought they should have asked if he was interested in coaching and then offered him a lifetime services contract to help make up for the loss of money.

     
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    Mets dont even want to give up a 3rd rounder for him, but were willing to give up a top 35 pick, to sign him. Thats funny.

     
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    Mets dont even want to give up a 3rd rounder for him, but were willing to give up a top 35 pick, to sign him. Thats funny.

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    Who says we will sign him?

     
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    Mets dont even want to give up a 3rd rounder for him, but were willing to give up a top 35 pick, to sign him. Thats funny.

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    Who says we will sign him?

    [/QUOTE]Time for BEN & the SOX to move on from DREW & BORA$$  !!


     
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    Mets dont even want to give up a 3rd rounder for him, but were willing to give up a top 35 pick, to sign him. Thats funny.

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    Who says we will sign him?

    [/QUOTE]Time for BEN & the SOX to move on from DREW & BORA$$  !!


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    I guess you're ready to move on from JBJ and Xander Bogaerts too.

     
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    Mets dont even want to give up a 3rd rounder for him, but were willing to give up a top 35 pick, to sign him. Thats funny.

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    Who says we will sign him?

    [/QUOTE]Time for BEN & the SOX to move on from DREW & BORA$$  !!


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    I guess you're ready to move on from JBJ and Xander Bogaerts too.

    [/QUOTE]4bs .....  Your response is a bit premature !!!  Ya think ??


     
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    Re: With all the leverage the Red Sox have and the minimal leverage Boras has, what would you offer Drew?

    We will have $43M coming off the books from our 3 starters in 2015 (Peavy, Dempster, Lackey, assuming no trades) with net plus $7M for resigning Lester. David Ortiz also comes off but my guess is we will extend him for another year. We will also drop $11M for our 2 catchers.

    With no further transactions, we sit in pretty good spot. We have a competitive team that can fight for a playoff spot in 2014. Meanwhile some of our younger players will have the opportunity to show if they are major league ready. Our plethora of young pitchers will gain another year of experience. 

    We need to find out THIS year if Middlebrooks belongs in the majors. It's time. I think he does. 

     
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    We will have $43M coming off the books from our 3 starters in 2015 (Peavy, Dempster, Lackey, assuming no trades) with net plus $7M for resigning Lester. David Ortiz also comes off but my guess is we will extend him for another year. We will also drop $11M for our 2 catchers.

    With no further transactions, we sit in pretty good spot. We have a competitive team that can fight for a playoff spot in 2014. Meanwhile some of our younger players will have the opportunity to show if they are major league ready. Our plethora of young pitchers will gain another year of experience. 

    We need to find out THIS year if Middlebrooks belongs in the majors. It's time. I think he does. 

    [/QUOTE]Great post, thats why its time for DREW to moveon.org !!!!!!


     
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    Mets dont even want to give up a 3rd rounder for him, but were willing to give up a top 35 pick, to sign him. Thats funny.

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    Who says we will sign him?

    [/QUOTE]Time for BEN & the SOX to move on from DREW & BORA$$  !!


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    I guess you're ready to move on from JBJ and Xander Bogaerts too.

    [/QUOTE]4bs .....  Your response is a bit premature !!!  Ya think ??


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    They're both Boras clients, Bill.

    Do you want to "move on from Bora$$" or not?

     
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    I would not make any offer to Drew. Time to move on. Give Bogaerts every opportunity to be the shortstop. And , give Middlebrooks every opportunity to be the third baseman. 

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    not specifically picking on you dgale as others completely agree with you but it must be stated....  Middlebrooks has already had 3 separate "opportunities" to be the starting third baseman for the Boston Red Sox.  and has failed each time.

    is the 4th time a charm????

     

    obviously i am all in for drew at SS and X-Bo at 3b for 2014. 

     
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    Re: With all the leverage the Red Sox have and the minimal leverage Boras has, what would you offer Drew?

    Middlebrooks didn't actually fail on the first attempt.  His 2012 season was ended by being hit by a pitch, correct?

     
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    Middlebrooks didn't actually fail on the first attempt.  His 2012 season was ended by being hit by a pitch, correct?




    he failed to get out of the way of the pitch.

    Tongue Out

    but, ok....i will acquiesce and say....3rd time is the charm?

     
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    Middlebrooks didn't actually fail on the first attempt.  His 2012 season was ended by being hit by a pitch, correct?

    In 2012, Will Middlebrooks posted a stellar .331/.368/.592/.960 line in 40 games before the Kevin Youkilis trade and a .240/.276/.416/.692 line in 35 games after the trade. The latter line in remarkably similar to the .227/.271/.425/.696 line Middlebrooks posted in 94 games last season.

     
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    Re: With all the leverage the Red Sox have and the minimal leverage Boras has, what would you offer Drew?

    I like Drew, but is he really worth going over the luxury tax limit when we have Bogaerts and WMB (with a reasonable assumption that we can expect a better performance from WMB this year)  and we have Cecchini, Betts, Marrero in the wings???

    I say no.

    Hypothetically we could try to dump dempsters salary to sign Drew. 

     

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