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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    No where in the story does it say anything about Ellsbury being a bust...what you copy and pasted are facts and figures. What the story actually says is that Jacoby will be significantly more productive in 09 due in part to his strong work ethic
     
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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    If you choose to call last year a bust for Ellsbury , thats fine, its a free country. But in that case you shouldve titled your post "SOFTLAW2: Ellsbury's a Bust in year 2" cause the Boston Globe says no such thing and in fact is speaking of Jacoby in a complimentary fashion
     
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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    Not to mention, this selective cut paste and giant font phrase to play up the negative doesn't mention Ellsbury's improvement Aug-Oct. Just as a general point of baseball appreciation, its usually a good idea to keep the verdict out on a player after only one full season in the show.
     
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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    a .280 BA with 50 steals while playing very good defense in your rookie year is better than most players can say they did, stop it already you put way too much effort into trying to stir the pot here, get a life.
     
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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    I voted more likely to be moved from top spot than to become a premier lead-off hitter. I think it is probably somewhere in between. If he can get the OBP up 30 or 40 points then he could be a weapon out of top spot.
    They never call him a bust in the survey. Way too soon for that. Plus, he still plays a good CF, which can buy him some rope.

     
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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    Softlaw, Do you have anything good to say? I think you are a complete idiot for not being able to see Jacoby's potential. Coco is gone. Get over it fool.
     
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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    rookie years of notable lead-off men...

    Johnny Damon - .271 BA .313 OBP 6 HR 50 RBI 25 SB (145 games)

    Rickey Henderson - .274 BA .338 OBP 1 HR 26 RBI 33 SB (89 games)

    Jacoby Ellsbury - .280 BS .336 OBP 9 HR 47 RBI 50 SB (145 games)

    not saying he will be either of those guys, but c'mon man its way too early to call him a bust those guys are proof, now in hendersons first full season his stats jumped to an insane level, but he played enough games in '79 to have it looked at as his rookie year.
     
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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    sounds like he just has to work on his plate discipline. OBP was the only area in which he did poorly. how many teams have a guy that can get you 50 steals?
     
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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    Ellsbury's only a bust compared to the unfair hype bestowed upon him by RSN.

    Let the kid play a full year this year before judgement is cast.
     
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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    Buttaplay Love the comparison to the Damon stats, great pull!!
     
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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    also, id really like to see one link to anything where anybody ever even considered that he was going to be ted williams. that hype began and ended with softlaw.
     
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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    [Quote]also, id really like to see one link to anything where anybody ever even considered that he was going to be ted williams. that hype began and ended with softlaw.[/Quote]

    Not really - there were plently of unrealistic expectations scattered all over WEEI. The callers fell in love with sample size, as they ususally do.
     
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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    The only bust is softlaw. He loves to roll a grenade under the table and disappear stage left. And he'll keep doing this because the Sox FO didn't do what he wanted--keep Crisp and get rid of Ellsbury. Old Softie thinks he's so smart, but he has of course never managed anything in his life, let alone an MLB team. Theo, on the other hand, has seen two World Series wins and regular appearances in the playoffs since his arrival. He ain't poifect by any means, but he is demonstrably the best GM in the history of the franchise and one of the best in MLB.

    There's a lot Ellsbury can improve upon, but there's a lot he's done well. I think he is already a better fielder than Coco because he gets fewer errors, has a better arm, can jump higher to get balls against the wall, and play right and left as well as centerfield. I completely agree he needs to raise his OBP, but that was the point of the article.
     
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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    I was going to call softlaw2 out for the misleading headline on this thread, but Wlatham781 beat me to it.

    Mischaracterising an article, making up a quote and attributing it to the press isn't the way to build credibility on the posting boards.
     
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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    Softlaw is looking to improve on his 2008 stats. He's slated for 479 whines, of which he'll have 202 diatribes for an amazing diatribe onbase % of .4217, with 63 misstated, incorrect or misquoted or conveniently rephrased quotes to try and make his point seem legitimate.
    Spring training has just started and troll season right around the corner.. Catch the magic!
     
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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    [Quote]If you choose to call last year a bust for Ellsbury , thats fine, its a free country. But in that case you shouldve titled your post "SOFTLAW2: Ellsbury's a Bust in year 2" cause the Boston Globe says no such thing and in fact is speaking of Jacoby in a complimentary fashion[/Quote]

    ^ The only response this useless post needed.
     
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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    Isn't it a bit early to call him a bust?

    I mean he has played on season. Give him time. Then if in another season or two he is still feeling his way at the plate, he becomes a great backup/pinch runner.
     
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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    It's not satire, it is idiotic drivel that has no statistical support, it's just blind hate from a fool with an anti-youth agenda, the guy is an ignorant coward who has made racist statements about our native american CFer in the past and been proven wrong for months

    Lugo entered Boston w/ career averages around .275/.335... those were the expectations... he put up atrocious #'s.. .237/.294 and was demoted... a pretty blatent bust... yes he did have 30 steals and 71 runs.

    Ellsbury entered the year as a top prospect, some pink hat fools made unfair comparisons to Ichiro or Ted Williams... ha... some said Sizemore (never me)... I said Damon... who in his first two years was a .273/.325 player w/ 7 HR's. Not even as good as Ells was. And Ells played 2 months w/ a sprained wrist. In the 5 months he was healthy the kid went for .300/.375 and hit 11 of his 12 career HR's.

    Ellsbury in less starts than Lugo had in '07, scored 27 more runs and had 17 more steals. Lugo couldn't keep his leadoff job, he couldn't even have more extra base hits than errors in '08. he was a bust. Ellsbury's .280/.336 averages in '08 were a slightly less than expected... but we'd have KILLED to get that from Lugo (even tho that was the EXPECTATION for him prior to '07, it is not good enough from Ells in '08).

    Softy is wrong, as always, a hateful fool
     
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    Boston Globe: "Ellsbury's a Bust in Year 2"

    All this talk of busts is making me feel randy.
     

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