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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit


    As soon as Javy Lopez came in I felt impending doom. Scioscia brings in a starter (Weaver) conditioned to pitche several more innings. I thought Tito would do the same bringing in Byrd. Not Javy. How many times has Lopez either couldn't throw strikes or given up the lead this season? Too many times to say. To me he's the ghost of Gagne. I wish the Sox would dump all the sidearmers. They all stink. Remember Mike Myers and Chad Bradford? All shaky, edge-of-your-seat guys. I would have favored Wake over Lopez last night - but preferred Byrd. Sure, lots of missed opportunities last night, and blame to go around. Still, the Lopez moment broke our backs. 65% of all walks come around to score. Javy hasn't got the right stuff to get out of trouble. Also, I agree with the other thread here, Lowell - God love him - has got to sit. He is in too much pain toe be effective at 3B or at the plate. And Pedroia - I get the feeling he is going to explode at the plate any moment. Let's hope we get the desired outcome tonight. I would like to rest the team while the White Sox extend the Rays. Should have ended last night.
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    Yeah, Lopez really got pounded. A single, a bunt and a bloop. This is baseball. Lopez has been effective all year. If the Sox brought in Byrd, you would have the same reaction if HE gave up a run. 20/20 hindsight makes you right 100% of the time, all the time. Give me a break. The Angels got the big hit and the Sox did not...end of story. Now, move on to game 4. If it was easy, everyone would be in the playoffs. It is supposed to be hard. That's why its fun.
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    i agree 100%. lopez was the wrong call and playing lowell was another case of the red sox players managing the team and not the actual manager.
    drew on the other hand, probably never told terry that he felt like playing, so drew sits out.
    can't change the past, but if the sox don't win tonight, the future will be very bleak. in other words, the sox will either win it in 4 or lose it in 5.
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    Um, you're in extra innings. Your choice basically is Lopez or Paul Byrd. Lopez has been pretty darn reliable. Byrd is a total question mark coming out of the bullpen. So, you go with lopez. Lopez gets beat, but not shelled. so what? You're not going to give him the ball again? Weird. Sometimes teams lose in baseball.

    And Mike Lowell? Sure, looks tough for him out there. Tough call for a manager i think. Go with your proven champion, ws mvp, veteran leader who is fighting an injury, or shake up your defensive alignment and lineup and lose the heart of your championship club. I don;t know. I understand pulling him at this point. But I don't fault Francona for sticking with him to this point.
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    Look at Lopez's splits.. right handers hit .311 against him. .311. Francoma brought him in against a Righty/Righty/Switch/Switch/Left

    So chances are the first 4 would be have a huge advantage against him.

    On the other hand he throws .182 against lefties.

    Why? Because he's a specialist.
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    It's really an easy call.

    1st....Start Casey at first. Put Youk at third. Kotsay can come in and pinch run for Casey if he gets on in the late innings.

    Why have Casey on the roster if he's not going to play...utilize the only thing he has going for him...his bat.

    2nd...Lopez. Let's not get too carried away. The guy is O.K. FOR 1,2, or maybe 3 batters after that ...get him out of there. He cannot pitch a complete inning without getting in trouble. Once Papelbon was done, Francona should have gone to one of the starters ,Wakefield or Byrd...what's the point of having them on the roster if they are just going to sit? Scioscia out smarted Francona on this one using Weaver.

    3rd...Anybody besides me think there is more wrong with Beckett than we are being told? This season he has had stiff neck. flu, bad elbow, and bad back. It used to be just blisters we had to worry about.

    I haven't seen the dominant Beckett in so long I 've almost forgotten what he was like last postseason.

     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    [Quote]
    can't change the past, but if the sox don't win tonight, the future will be very bleak. in other words, the sox will either win it in 4 or lose it in 5.[/Quote]

    Yup, it's obvious the Red Sox CAN'T win in Ananheim.
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    Of greater concern tonight is the fact that Pap pitched 2 innings las night. Can he be effective tonight if called upon?
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    [Quote]Look at Lopez's splits.. right handers hit .311 against him. .311. Francoma brought him in against a Righty/Righty/Switch/Switch/Left

    So chances are the first 4 would be have a huge advantage against him.

    On the other hand he throws .182 against lefties.

    Why? Because he's a specialist.[/Quote]


    Lopez's L/R splits are significant but the splits of the hitters due up are not?

    1. Napoli: .286 BA, .977 OPS vs: LHP, .270/.954 vs: RHP
    2. Kendrick: .300/.743 vs: LHP, .308/.758 vs: RHP
    3. Aybar: .286/.686 vs: LHP, .274/.704 vs: RHP
    4. Figgins: .272/.640 vs: LHP, .277/.701 vs: RHP
    5. Anderson: .290/.704 vs: LHP, .290/.773 vs: RHP

    I don't see the advantage of throwing a RHP against these hitters. I do however see the advantage of these guys hitting from the right side of the plate as they will be that much slower getting to 1st base on a GB in the IF. I also see the advantage of a LHP holding a baserunner close to 1st and preventing a SB.

    Lopez has only surrendered 4 HR in 59.1 IP this season, about 1 HR every 15 IP. Byrd OTOH has allowed 31 in 180 IP, about 1 for every 6 IP, and 1 for every 4 IP @ Fenway. In his 106 ABs vs RHH, Lopez has allowed just 2 HR, 1 every 53 AB. In 349 AB vs RHH, Byrd has allowed 14 HR, about 1 every 25 AB.

    Not only does Lopez do a better job of keeping hitters in the park, he keeps the switch hitters on the right side of the plate, giving the Sox IF more time to make a play to 1st.
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    [Quote]Good old Dwight. What a ghoul. Shows up after a loss, nowhere to be seen after a win.[/Quote]

    hey genius,

    i predicted the sox would lose in 4, so i'm wrong already. however, if you or that other genius, niz, think the sox, if they lose tonight, are going to go back to anaheim and win a 3rd time there, fugettaboutit.
     
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    Yup, it's obvious the Red Sox CAN'T win in Ananheim.[/Quote]



    exactly where the hell is ananheim? it's playing a third game in anaheim that you should be worried about.
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    Nothing against Lopez but I can't say I was thrilled with the choice last night. Regardless of often-misleading bullpen ERAs, Javy's a second-tier reliever. Bottom line; he couldn't make it thru an inning without giving up the lead. But what really hurts here is the four other RPs the Red Sox had to burn just to end up losing in 12. Limited availability for Oki, MDC and Masterson tonite...and almost no chance Papelbon pitches.
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    This is insane. Lopez was the last guy left among the true relievers, and he has been effective this year with an ERA under 3. Wakefield was unavailable because Cash had been replaced by Ross. So the only other pitcher left was Paul Byrd, who had a bad September and is not used to coming in from the bullpen.

    But I applaud the choice of Lopez for another reason. With luck, he was going to get hit enough to give up a run and end this thing. The Sox were never, ever going to win last night's game because they were absolutely incapable of scoring another run. They had 7 hits in 12 innings. They scored 3 runs that never should have happened, but for the missed communications between the Angels infield and outfield. Pedroia, Ortiz, Bay, and Lowell all went hitless.
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    [Quote]



    exactly where the hell is ananheim? it's playing a third game in anaheim that you should be worried about.[/Quote]

    Yup, when you've got nothing left, choose spelling. LOL.
    One more Sox win and you'll be gone 'till the next series, Skippy.

    Must really blow, being a Yankee fan and praying that the Angels wake up.
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    What about Timlin ??

    :)

    Seriously though, what scares me is that Timlin may be the first guy out of the pen tonight thanks to last night...

    And I think it was Zilla that asked why Casey is on the roster of Tito doesn't plan using him - I agree.

    I'd like to see Casey at 1B tonight, but he's 0-4 against Lackey and lefties are hitting just .221 against him. FTR - Kotsay is 9 for 34 (.265), Cora is 5 for 19 (.263) and Lowrie has never faced Lackey.

    That said, Casey is batting .371 at Fenway... I just hope he's not rusty.

    BL Prediction: Pedroia and Drew play hero tonight.

    The Bottom Line Blog
     
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    [Quote]

    Yup, when you've got nothing left, choose spelling. LOL.
    One more Sox win and you'll be gone 'till the next series, Skippy.

    Must really blow, being a Yankee fan and praying that the Angels wake up.[/Quote]easy on that skippy stuff ive been a sox fan since 1960....they used to let us in for free so it looked like the sox had fans back then....that was then this is now...lester 8ip, 6 hits 1 er....sox 6-2
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    Er, BLRob, Timlin's not on the roster.
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    Ill - I forgot!! :)

    For some reason I had it in my head that he was... Well that's probably a good thing. Let's hope Lester can give us 7 tonight... question is:

    who will close?

    Paps has been worked alot... Delcarmen looks like the best bet with just 1.2 innings...

    The Bottom Line Blog
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    M1A2 while I can appreciate your ability to project power rapidly in a land based conflict with excellent survivability, I take slight issue with this part of your post:

    "This is insane. Lopez was the last guy left among the true relievers, and he has been effective this year with an ERA under 3. Wakefield was unavailable because Cash had been replaced by Ross. So the only other pitcher left was Paul Byrd, who had a bad September and is not used to coming in from the bullpen."

    While your immediate point is right, it was Lopez, Byrd, or Wake remaining to be used, is it not reasonable to ask why this was so? The decision to carry 3 catchers to allow for pinch hitting for Tek was a bit odd IMO. Such a specialized situation was unlikely to present itself as often as our likely need for bullpen help. We should have added an extra pitcher instead. I also wasn't thrilled to see Wakefield on there at all. Can you think of a situation other than a HUGE blow out that you'd be confident seeing him enter from the bullpen? One can't argue that because the bullpen had inadequate staffing, it is excusable that the pen's staff failed to perform. Not when the provided staff were requested by you.
    As for Lowell, I think I would use him as a pinch hitter. It's on defense and the basepaths that he becomes a liability. He can still hit so having that right handed power bat off the bench would be great. I also would NOT have Casey on the post season roster if there was zero intention to use him. He can't be used as a pinch runner, is a fair to poor defender and Terry's not comfortable with him in a pinch hitting role. Care to explain his presence then?

    Finally, I have to ask you twolites about your name. Is it from the beautiful State Park in Cape Elizabeth Maine named Two Lights? Really beautiful rocky coastline that's a great place to picnic and hang out. Welcome to the board man.

     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    Don't worry BL Rob. I can guarantee Timlin won't be the first guy out of the pen tonite. He isn't active for this series!!!!
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    what's the story with casey? what did he say tyhat got everyone mad?
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    [Quote]

    The decision to carry 3 catchers to allow for pinch hitting for Tek was a bit odd IMO. Such a specialized situation was unlikely to present itself as often as our likely need for bullpen help. We should have added an extra pitcher instead. I also wasn't thrilled to see Wakefield on there at all. Can you think of a situation other than a HUGE blow out that you'd be confident seeing him enter from the bullpen? One can't argue that because the bullpen had inadequate staffing, it is excusable that the pen's staff failed to perform. Not when the provided staff were requested by you.



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    I too was skeptical about the decision to carry 3 catchers, but the situation presented itself in Sunday night's game. Carrying these 3 catchers not only provides some security should an injury occur to Cash, it allows Tito to PH for Varitek earlier in the game. should the catcher's spot in the lineup come up again, he is able to PH/R for Cash.

    As for carrying another pitcher, well, who was left off the roster that has been consistently effective throughout the season? Would the Sox be all that better off with a Devern Hansack or a Chris Smith, neither of whom have PS experience? Mike Timlin and his 6+ ERA? I'd much rather see Wake
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    cmon masterson!!!!
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    0-2 count and giving up BB to Vlad... and Hunter did his job after that passed ball by Tek. finish this inning and score some runs

    fans in fenway i want to hear you!!!!
     
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    Game 4 - No more Javy Lopez; Lowell must sit

    fran-coma is an idiot. he took lester out after the seveneth and put in over-used relievers from this MORNING. because of his stupid decision, the game is now tied at 2. nice move....
     

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